Change opacity of global color in V2?

[TraitorJoe]

Can opacity be adjusted on global colors in V2?  I'm on V1, where it cannot.

[Hangman]

Hi @TraitorJoe and welcome to the forums,

Just adjust the Opacity Slider in the Colour Palette...

[GarryP]

I think I’m right in saying that the Opacity setting of a colour, along with the Tint and Noise, is a local setting to the specific layer and it cannot be set globally.

This is why the Opacity slider (and the Tint and Noise settings) is not available via the Edit Global Colour pop-up, or via Edit Fill from the Swatches Panel.

I bit of a quick test seems to confirm this but if anyone can prove me wrong that’d be fine.

[Hangman]

I may have misunderstood the original question but if you create a Global colour, apply say 50% opacity to it in the Colour Palette and then save this as a new global colour then you have a global colour swatch with 50% opacity...

I don't believe this is any different from non-global colours, i.e, if you edit a non-global colour while you do have access to the noise slider you don't have access to the opacity slider when selecting Edit Fill so to create a non-global colour with opacity you'd do the same thing, i.e., apply the opacity to your colour and then add this as a new swatch.

Regardless of whether the colour is global or non-global the original swatch will maintain its original opacity in the swatches palette, you can't as far as I'm aware, edit the opacity of the original swatch in the swatches palette.

This works the same way in both v1 and v2 but maybe this is not what is being sought here so I may equally be wrong...

[GarryP]

I took the question as being: “If I have a Global Colour in my palette, can I change the Opacity of that Global Colour and have that Opacity change be replicated everywhere that I have used that Global Colour?”

And I think the answer to that is no, unless someone can show me otherwise.

In other words, we can give a Global Colour an Opacity but that Opacity becomes a local setting to the layers on which that Global Colour is applied.

[Hangman]

That makes perfect sense and you're right, the answer appears to be no which does seem to be a strange omission...

[GarryP]

I asked this question a good while ago and Gabe gave some answers there:

 

[Hangman]

Perfect, thanks for the link, I'd not seen that thread before...

[GarryP]

I only remembered it because I was the OP, and because of that I knew what to search for.

[TraitorJoe]

Thanks! No change in V2, then. Can't change after creating swatch. Too bad it's still programmed that way.

[ASUNDER]

I'm trying to hunt down why using my qwerty number keys pops up a "Set global opacity" in the undo history.

I've found that with the main colour and swatches; changing their opacity sliders pops up, "Set alpha" in the undo history.
But using the number keys changes the opacity of my selected object only.

The opacity sliders in the colour and swatches panes are linked but the layer tab isn't linked to any of that.
I'm guessing the layer opacity is a local multiplier and the colour/swatches is to modify the current colour that's mounted in the hopper.

So you can keep your current colour opacity, then individually modify layers post-colouring.
That makes sense but I'm trying to get rid of these numbers shortcuts to give them to something else.  They don't seem to be in the settings/shortcuts.
And for these hotkeys the undo history prints, "global opacity" but it's not global; it's the local opacity.  I was confused because I kept searching for a global opacity.

[GarryP]

The numeric keys are keyboard shortcuts to set the Opacity of the currently selected layer.

For example, if you press the “2” key you will set the Opacity to 20%, the “0” key sets the Opacity to 100%, and pressing “3” and then “7” in quick succession will set the Opacity to 37%.

You cannot change or remove these shortcuts as they are ‘baked in’ to the software.

Setting the Opacity of a layer will show up in the History because it’s a change to the contents of the document which needs to be tracked.

The phrase "Set global opacity" for the History entry isn't a good name for what it represents (from a user perspective).

The Opacity of a colour used in the layer is independent of the Opacity of the layer itself.

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, GarryP said:

The phrase "Set global opacity" for the History entry isn't a good name for what it represents (from a user perspective).

... and the ambiguity may also confuse in the "Select Same…" menu, e.g. for "Fill Colour" or "Transparency":
(in addition with an issue for the highlight of assigned swatches)

[GarryP]

Agreed, something like “Select → Select Same → Layer Transparency” might be better than just “… → Transparency”.

Just one more of those little UI ambiguities.

[ASUNDER]

2 hours ago, GarryP said:

The numeric keys are keyboard shortcuts to set the Opacity of the currently selected layer.

For example, if you press the “2” key you will set the Opacity to 20%, the “0” key sets the Opacity to 100%, and pressing “3” and then “7” in quick succession will set the Opacity to 37%.

You cannot change or remove these shortcuts as they are ‘baked in’ to the software.

Setting the Opacity of a layer will show up in the History because it’s a change to the contents of the document which needs to be tracked.

The phrase "Set global opacity" for the History entry isn't a good name for what it represents (from a user perspective).

The Opacity of a colour used in the layer is independent of the Opacity of the layer itself.

Ya.  Found that out the hard way.  I wanted to retain the numbers above the typing keys unmolested, for renaming.  So I can't mess with them, because I checked and unfortunately the layer inline rename or rename dialog won't disregard modifiers.
So I changed all my "Select Same's" to (Ctrl + #'s) and put them on my right side keypad (macro keyboard) to keep the naming numbers free.
I should make a video of all the stuff I did.

 

2 hours ago, GarryP said:

The Opacity of a colour used in the layer is independent of the Opacity of the layer itself.

That is getting confusing.