Alternating gutters in single pages

[Lintrezza]

Hi there,

I'm trying to reformat a novel that was in single pages with identical margins - as per the publishers requirements. I'm now trying to reformat it, still with single pages but with every second page having the gutter on the opposite side of the page. I've searched and attempted to resolve, but haven't been able to. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

 

 

[GarryP]

Can you give us a visual example of both what you have and what you want?

It sounds like you could use a Facing Pages layout with different Inner/Outer margins, and then export as single pages, but I can’t be sure.

[Lintrezza]

Can you export it as single pages? That would do the trick.

 

 

[thomaso]

To export a facing pages (spreads) document as single pages choose the export option "Area: All Pages".

[Lintrezza]

Thank you so much Thomaso & GarryP! I'd never have worked that out.

[Lintrezza]

I just stumbled on another way to achieve this.  Making Master page A and B and setting up margins and gutters for left and right pages, and then right mouse clicking on a  page and applying the master A or B to every odd or even page! Viola!

[thomaso]

22 minutes ago, Lintrezza said:

Viola!

What is the advantage of treating single pages like facing pages for layout purposes without seeing them next to each other? It sounds more complex to a.) set up and b.) layout.

[Lintrezza]

It was a simple fix. What I've been looking for.  I've always worked in single pages because of printer requirements. I guess it's what you're used to.

[thomaso]

So, just for future projects: You can layout in spreads … and / but export as single pages.
This doesn't require the use of master pages … but you still can use them, both as common spreads or as single master pages).

[David Battistella]

 

lots of good info in here.  
 

ive got his problem with a pixart printer requirement.

the cover page needs to be exported as an a4 horizontal layout 

and the pages of the booklet need to be laid out as single pages.

so, can i set up a template that will export the final pdf in this way?

even if i import the pdf and place all the pages, the export still becomes a bit of an issue. 
 

david

 

 

brossura_fresata_rev14_en.pdf Pocket_sized_book_3b2e45af6d143352cca0d1153f3a192a.pdf

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, David Battistella said:

the cover page needs to be exported as an a4 horizontal layout
and the pages of the booklet need to be laid out as single pages.
so, can i set up a template that will export the final pdf in this way?

To me its seems unclear whether the pages get printed double-sided (front + back of the sheets), and, if yes, whether you want to design double-paged layouts, e.g.with graphic elements (e.g. images) placed across the spread and its spine (-> partially appearing on a left AND a right page).

• If the layout is meant to design single pages only you can create a single-paged document in the wanted page size (e.g. A5 portrait) and, for the cover, add a separate page with deviating dimensions (e.g. A4 landscape). In this case you could use the printer's template.pdf – although this can be easily setup from scratch in APub and thus without the need to hide the red lines of their template before export. If you create the document yourself (instead of opening their template.PDF) you still can place a sample page of this pdf to check your setup and margin, and, for the cover, check their marked spine width)

• If the layout is meant to design spreads (left & right pages) you would create two layout documents: one facing-pages document, starting with page one as a right page, and a separate document for the cover only. This way you would export two PDF documents (both exported as single pages) and then either send two PDF files to the printer, or, if they accept 1 PDF only, combine the two exported PDF documents in a separate step. If you don't have an app that can do this you might use a website that offers combining PDF files in the required way.

[David Battistella]

I got figured out by

 

adding two a4 horizontal master pages for the covers and inside covers. The rest of the pages remain vertical A5 pages. 

[thomaso]

33 minutes ago, David Battistella said:

adding two a4 horizontal master pages for the covers and inside covers. The rest of the pages remain vertical A5 pages. 

You don't need to create master pages for certain, deviating page dimensions, you can change a page size directly (e.g.: right click on the page thumbnail -> "Spread Properties…").

Nevertheless, this setup will require to export two PDF files: 1.) the cover exported as spread (not 2 single A5 pages but 1 A4 spread) … and 2.) the rest of the document as single pages.

[David Battistella]

When i did the test pdf export the first page was A4 horizonatal, front and back cover on one spread. 
 

the rest of the pages were single a5 vertical

just as their template pdf is laid out. 
 

im glad this is possible. Ans if i have to two files then i will use page ranges to do that. 
 

thanks!

davi 

[thomaso]

3 hours ago, David Battistella said:

When i did the test pdf export the first page was A4 horizonatal, front and back cover on one spread. 

Sorry, my fault. I was misreading your cover spreads as being done with two A5 pages rather than one A4 page.

[David Battistella]

 

no problem. It is great to know that this is all possible in one file (at least for a softcover book) the problem is that it would be a custom page size for a hardcover book, but that should be no problem as well. 
 

i might create a template file with these three master pages so that i can recreate in this format again, but i have to read up on layout templates. 

[thomaso]

16 minutes ago, David Battistella said:

the problem is that it would be a custom page size for a hardcover book, but that should be no problem as well. 

That's no problem because you can define multiple page dimensions within an APub document, for both master and/or document pages.

The problem would rather occur if you want to layout / design as 2-page spreads (still exporting as single pages). That would not work for the single-paged cover layout (because of left/right pages in a facing-page document with usually page 1 being a right page)