User dictionaries selectable by document

[Chills]

Hi,

I edit a Heritage magazine that uses a LOT of strange words from Anglo-Saxon, Medieval periods and some Latin.   However, I also edit technical documents with a lot of other strange words and acronyms. Therefore, I would end up with multiple user dictionaries.   

So I would like to be able to load an additional "user" dictionary, on a per-document basis, when it is opened where I can save new words.

I am sure many others who edit specialist documents will also need multiple user dictionaries that are separate to the main language document.

Is this possible?
Can it go on the R&D roadmap?

 

[walt.farrell]

It's not possible now. 

However, if it helps, you can Ignore a spelling rather than Learning it. The Ignore list is specific to a document, rather than being saved in a dictionary fine.

[Chills]

6 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

It's not possible now. 

However, if it helps, you can Ignore a spelling rather than Learning it. The Ignore list is specific to a document, rather than being saved in a dictionary fine.

Thanks for that.

Any idea where this is stored (on Win 11)  and is it possible to have more than one  file?

[walt.farrell]

1 minute ago, Chills said:

Thanks for that.

Any idea where this is stored (on Win 11)  and is it possible to have more than one  file?

It is stored in the document.

[Chills]

2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

It is stored in the document.

That explains a lot!! When typesetting a 40-page document, there are a LOT of "ignore" words.  The problem is I tend to save the document when completed and then a save-as  to be the start point of the next one. I am on document 5 at the moment....  Hence some crashes when checking the spillings.

[MikeTO]

Latin is easy because you can download the Latin dictionaries and then any words you add will be saved in your Latin user dictionary.

I don't know of any hunspell dictionaries for Medieval English but you could make a copy of the en_GB dictionaries and rename them to something like en_ME. "ME" is actually for Montenegro so you might see "English (Montenegro)" in the Language list but that's okay, it's just to differentiate it and there is no English Montenegro to conflict with. Now text that you format with this language option will use the standard British English dictionary and any words you add to the user dictionary for Medieval English will be separate from your normal US or UK English user dictionary.

Cheers

[Chills]

On 12/5/2023 at 11:05 PM, MikeTO said:

Latin is easy because you can download the Latin dictionaries and then any words you add will be saved in your Latin user dictionary.

I don't know of any hunspell dictionaries for Medieval English but you could make a copy of the en_GB dictionaries and rename them to something like en_ME. "ME" is actually for Montenegro so you might see "English (Montenegro)" in the Language list but that's okay, it's just to differentiate it and there is no English Montenegro to conflict with. Now text that you format with this language option will use the standard British English dictionary and any words you add to the user dictionary for Medieval English will be separate from your normal US or UK English user dictionary.

Cheers

I don't want any Hunspell dictionaries. I want to make my own.   However, I want to have Base Language dictionary (English UK)  then an additional user dictionary I can load with specialist words in.

I note when I load some text that A Publisher says in the pre-flight dictionary "English Ca"  (Canadian) or IE (Irish)  missing. When I cut the text, put it into Notepad and repast it back in the warning is gone SO it clearly can recognize different languages so as with Word Processors it should be possible to have more than one language loaded.

It would be useful if the document could say which base and which user dictionary it wants to be loaded.  Thus the "learn Word" can go into my specialist user dictionary(s)  the Ignore can be as usual?

[walt.farrell]

5 minutes ago, Chills said:

I don't want any Hunspell dictionaries. I want to make my own.   However, I want to have Base Language dictionary (English UK)  then an additional user dictionary I can load with specialist words in.

You must use dictionaries in the Hunspell format. You can create your own, but I've never tried it. There are articles online about doing it.

You cannot have an additional user dictionary (on Windows, at least, though perhaps you can on Mac) without assigning a different language to the text.

[MikeTO]

15 minutes ago, Chills said:

I don't want any Hunspell dictionaries. I want to make my own.   However, I want to have Base Language dictionary (English UK)  then an additional user dictionary I can load with specialist words in.

This is exactly what I recommended. Duplicate the en_GB (UK) dictionary files as the base language and rename to en_ME (or whatever you want as long as it's not another real locale). en_ME will appear as English Montenegro but you'll know it's English Medieval. Then with that language selected, when you add misspelled words to the user dictionary, they will be added to en_ME and not to your normal en_GB (UK) user dictionary.

17 minutes ago, Chills said:

I note when I load some text that A Publisher says in the pre-flight dictionary "English Ca"  (Canadian) or IE (Irish)  missing. When I cut the text, put it into Notepad and repast it back in the warning is gone SO it clearly can recognize different languages so as with Word Processors it should be possible to have more than one language loaded.

This is because Publisher for Windows does not include en_CA, it includes only en_US (USA) and en_GB (UK). If you were to install the en_CA dictionary you wouldn't see a warning. And yes, Publisher can have dozens of languages installed an in use simultaneously.

20 minutes ago, Chills said:

It would be useful if the document could say which base and which user dictionary it wants to be loaded.  Thus the "learn Word" can go into my specialist user dictionary(s)  the Ignore can be as usual?

That's exactly what the Character panel's Language > Spelling option does, it specifies the spelling language for the selected text. (There's a separate language option for hyphenation.)

I've explained this in detail in my free PDF manual for Publisher which you can download from this forum using the link in my signature.

[Chills]

20 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

You must use dictionaries in the Hunspell format. You can create your own, but I've never tried it. There are articles online about doing it.

You cannot have an additional user dictionary (on Windows, at least, though perhaps you can on Mac) without assigning a different language to the text.

Ok, I  understand you meant Hunspell format. My mistake.

MS Word lets you install multiple custom dictionaries.  (unless they have taken it out recently) I was hoping that A Publisher could do the same.

 

[MikeTO]

3 minutes ago, Chills said:

MS Word lets you install multiple custom dictionaries.  (unless they have taken it out recently) I was hoping that A Publisher could do the same.

Yes, you can install as many as you want. The links are available from this handy FAQ:

 

[Chills]

11 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

This is exactly what I recommended. Duplicate the en_GB (UK) dictionary files as the base language and rename to en_ME (or whatever you want as long as it's not another real locale). en_ME will appear as English Montenegro but you'll know it's English Medieval. Then with that language selected, when you add misspelled words to the user dictionary, they will be added to en_ME and not to your normal en_GB (UK) user dictionary.

This is because Publisher for Windows does not include en_CA, it includes only en_US (USA) and en_GB (UK). If you were to install the en_CA dictionary you wouldn't see a warning. And yes, Publisher can have dozens of languages installed an in use simultaneously.

That's exactly what the Character panel's Language > Spelling option does, it specifies the spelling language for the selected text. (There's a separate language option for hyphenation.)

I've explained this in detail in my free PDF manual for Publisher which you can download from this forum using the link in my signature.

Many thanks for that. I have downloaded your PDF.

Re the "And yes, Publisher can have dozens of languages installed an in use simultaneously."  Are languages separate to dictionaries in this context? (I'm having a bad day )

[MikeTO]

15 minutes ago, Chills said:

Many thanks for that. I have downloaded your PDF.

Re the "And yes, Publisher can have dozens of languages installed an in use simultaneously."  Are languages separate to dictionaries in this context? (I'm having a bad day )

Language = dictionary. If you install the Polish spelling dictionary, Polish will appear in the Spelling language list. If you install the Polish hyphenation dictionary, Polish will appear in the Hyphenation language list.