MxHeppa Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 there is no possiblity use swatches in gradients? and way when i change swatch also gradients change. Also gradient it seems cannot be global? Quote AMD 7 7700X 64gigabytes ram 4Tb SSD for all kind projects. Affinity Apps v2 version. Windows 11 Pro.
loukash Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, MxHeppa said: there is no possiblity use swatches in gradients? Of course you can, but… 12 minutes ago, MxHeppa said: and way when i change swatch also gradients change. Only "simple" swatches, not global. 12 minutes ago, MxHeppa said: Also gradient it seems cannot be global? Sadly, nope. As I have posted recently somewhere: gradients still seem to be somewhat of a "stepchild" to Serif. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
loukash Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 By the way, at least you can use spot color swatches in gradients. Those will be also correctly exported for prepress to PDF/X if needed. (Just tested with the latest v2.3.0 to be sure that no new bugs have been introduced. All good as it seems!) Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
loukash Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, lacerto said: You can have have global swatches as stop colors in gradients, and when editing color definitions of those swatches, gradients change accordingly -- this works at least on Windows (and 2.x versions). Oh, I thought that doesn't work! But it does work on Mac, too. Perhaps I may have confused it with the fact that we can't have global gradient swatches. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
loukash Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Gradients really should have their own studio panel. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
loukash Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, lacerto said: the workaround you have demonstrated Wasn't it more about overprinting? Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
loukash Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, lacerto said: there was a thread once where both spot colors and overprinting were discussed, and really weird workarounds were invented! Yeah, I know which one. I think I've even relinked to it just recently elsewhere. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
MxHeppa Posted December 1, 2023 Author Posted December 1, 2023 test gradient beetween two pantone hues looks weird acrobat reader pro. luckily i need use swatches mainly normal rgb and cmyk colorus not spot colours. Quote AMD 7 7700X 64gigabytes ram 4Tb SSD for all kind projects. Affinity Apps v2 version. Windows 11 Pro.
loukash Posted December 1, 2023 Posted December 1, 2023 3 hours ago, MxHeppa said: test gradient beetween two pantone hues looks weird That might be the because spot colors don't overprint by default. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
thomaso Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 17 hours ago, loukash said: That might be the because spot colors don't overprint by default. Do gradients need overprinting inks? I think their transition is produced via rasterisation. Here a sample of a spot colour gradient (spot set to overprint, ) and a CMYK gradient. Interestingly non of them appears to overprint in this PDF while plain spot colour does overprint (see the smaller centred rectangles). – Possibly the OP has with "looks weird in Acrobat" rather the bending in gradients in mind which occurs quite the same here for spot and cmyk gradient. Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
loukash Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 Just now, thomaso said: Do gradients need overprinting inks? Sometimes, depending on the effect you want to achieve. And depending on the amount of bugs still left in Affinity apps concerning overprinting and gradients. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Sonoma > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 18 > Affinity v2
thomaso Posted December 2, 2023 Posted December 2, 2023 1 hour ago, loukash said: depending on the effect you want to achieve. Didn't we both refer to OP's "gradient beetween two pantone hues looks weird acrobat reader" – without any object underneath or wanted 'effect'? That made me assume that bending was meant as "weird" occurrence … which is independent of overprinting inks. Quote • MacBookPro Retina 15" | macOS 10.14.6 | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 • iPad 10.Gen. | iOS 18.5. | Affinity V2.6
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