Must deselect object to stop editing wrap outline

[MikeTO]

1. Draw a path or shape (but it's more of a problem for a path)
2. Edit wrap outline - the Node tool becomes active to edit the wrap outline
3. Realize you'd rather edit the path but Node is already selected so choose the Move tool and then the Node tool
4. But you're still editing the wrap outline. The only way to stop editing the wrap outline is to deselect and reselect the object.

 

[Dan C]

Thanks for your report @MikeTO!

I agree that when switching to the Move Tool a user would expect the previous action (in this case Edit Wrap Outline) to be cancelled, therefore I'm logging this with the team now.

I hope this helps

[Old Bruce]

I assume we are discussing the Warp feature in Designer, and not Text Wrap from Publisher.

4 hours ago, Dan C said:

I agree that when switching to the Move Tool a user would expect the previous action (in this case Edit Wrap Outline) to be cancelled, therefore I'm logging this with the team now.

But if the Warp layer is still selected why would changing from one tool to another and back to the node tool deselect the Warp layer and select the original object?

[walt.farrell]

3 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I assume we are discussing the Warp feature in Designer, and not Text Wrap from Publisher.

No. Text Wrap in Publisher.

[Old Bruce]

2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

No. Text Wrap in Publisher.

In that case I am not seeing this behaviour.

[MikeTO]

14 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

In that case I am not seeing this behaviour.

Here is a screen recording contrasting editing the path versus the wrap outline. As you can see, it gets stuck editing the wrap outline and changing tools doesn't clear it.

But it doesn't matter, Dan has already replicated the issue. Not the most important issue though.

 

 

[Dan C]

13 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I assume we are discussing the Warp feature in Designer, and not Text Wrap from Publisher

For example - 

 
As can be seen, when initiating Edit Wrap Outline, the Node Tool is automatically selected and moving any of the shapes nodes leaves the object in it's original location, only moving the wrap.

I then change to the Move Tool, which I believe should cancel the Edit Text Wrap outline command, but does not. Therefore when switching back to the Node Tool and moving the nodes - the object itself is still not transformed, only the Text Wrap Outline.

In order to actually edit this Curves Nodes, I have to select the Move Tool, deselect the object, then reselect and finally return to the Node Tool - where I am now back to editing the actual Curve object itself, and not the Curves Text Wrap Outline.

I'm able to replicate this across Windows and macOS and therefore have logged it with the team. I hope this clears things up

[Old Bruce]

I am baffled by the lack of text in these Text Wrap examples.

All I do here is chose to edit the text wrap outline then I click on a none curve area and then I start editing the curve using the same node tool.

 

 

[Dan C]

2 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

then I click on a none curve area

This deselects the object, which correctly cancels the Text Wrap Edit function - if you select the Move Tool instead of manually deselecting the curve, you should see the reported behaviour, as this does not cancel the Text Wrap Edit function.

[Old Bruce]

7 minutes ago, Dan C said:

if you select the Move Tool instead of manually deselecting the curve, you should see the reported behaviour, as this does not cancel the Text Wrap Edit function.

To paraphrase John Bonham "If I select the Move Tool it is because I want to move something." Perhaps the Text Outline, or the object itself.

I guess I just don't see this as any sort of unexpected behaviour nor a bug.

[MikeTO]

32 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

To paraphrase John Bonham "If I select the Move Tool it is because I want to move something." Perhaps the Text Outline, or the object itself.

I guess I just don't see this as any sort of unexpected behaviour nor a bug.

Obviously the Move tool is for a lot more than moving objects which is why Adobe calls it the Selection tool.

If this bug doesn't bother you then don't worry about it. But other users shouldn't have to deselect an object to end editing of the wrap outline, and shouldn't have to keep the Layers panel open. I don't keep Layers open - I rarely use it when editing a book and only flip over to it when necessary due to limited screen real estate.

Publisher's use of the Node tool to edit the wrap outline makes perfect sense but this makes the Node tool modal. There are no visual cues to indicate whether you are editing the actual path or the wrap outline so it's important for the mode to be exited easily to avoid confusion.

[Dan C]

As an update, our developers have confirmed the following:

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The reason this happens is that the selection has been changed to a child object (the wrap shape) and changing tool doesn’t change the selection. We believe that this behaviour is correct currently - changing tool shouldn’t change selection - but that the “Edit Wrap Shape” button should become a toggle, so that pressing it a second time returns the selection to the parent object.

I hope this clears things up

[MikeTO]

Just now, Dan C said:

As an update, our developers have confirmed the following:

I hope this clears things up

That would be a great solution.

They might also consider introducing a visual cue to differentiate editing the path versus wrap outline, which is somewhat important when the two are identical.

Thanks.

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Edit Wrap Outline remains enabled when switching to the Move Tool, then back to the Node Tool without deselecting the object" (REF: AF-1344) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.4.0.2175".
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