Running headers

[DebSki]

I've just, today, started playing with Publisher & am trying to set up a template for a newsletter so that all the formatting elements etc are there.

I've set up 2 master pages - page 1 (cover if you like) & all the other pages. I want to take the title from the first page & have that as a running header through the document with page numbers. I've got the page numbers to work & have got the running header to show on page 1 (where I don't really want it), but is there a way to get that on the other pages, which are on master B?

Thanks

[thomaso]

I might misunderstand your goal but to me it appears you would just need to move the frame with/for the running header from master A to master B.

[walt.farrell]

A Running Header is typically something that would change periodically throughout the document, such as a chapter name. If you have fixed text, such as the book title, you can just put that directly on a Master Page and apply it to the necessary pages.

You could use a Running Header, I think, but you would have to define a specific Text Style and use it only for the book title, then insert a Running Header field on Master B based on that Text Style. For this limited case, it's probably easier to just use static text on the Masgter Page, in my opinion.

[DebSki]

Was hoping that I could just change the text on page 1 & not have to remember to change the text in the header too. Guess it's back to plan A

Thanks

[walt.farrell]

2 minutes ago, DebSki said:

Was hoping that I could just change the text on page 1 & not have to remember to change the text in the header too. Guess it's back to plan A

As I said, if you create a specific Text Style for the title you should be able to use it in a Running Header on a different Master Page.

[DebSki]

I've done that, but on master A, which is first page. Running header then shows on page 1, but not on subsequent pages, which are master B. From Mike's handbook, I note that

"This will be shown as <Running Header> on a master page but the header text will appear on each page based on this master.", so I guess that using 2 different Master pages is what's stopping it doing what I was hoping it would do

[walt.farrell]

15 minutes ago, DebSki said:

so I guess that using 2 different Master pages is what's stopping it doing what I was hoping it would do

What stops you from adding a Running Header field on Master B?

[DebSki]

I have, but it doesn't seem to be picking it up - which is what made me think that the "each page based on this master" was key

[Komatös]

2 hours ago, DebSki said:

I have, but it doesn't seem to be picking it up - which is what made me think that the "each page based on this master" was key

You can create as many master pages as you need.
Create one master page for front and back cover, one with page numbers only (for pages that don't need a running header) and one master page with a running header.
Now drag the master page with the page numbers onto the master page with the running headers.

See my sample afpub to see how it can work.

 

running header.afpub

[DebSki]

Hi

Thanks. The issue with my newsletter is that the text I want as running header is only on the first page, which has elements that are only on that first page - a band of colour top & bottom. If I drag that first page master onto the others, then yes, the running header goes through, but so do the bands of colour. What I need to happen is for master B (pages 2 onwards) to reference the text on master A (front page) & so run the running header.

Perhaps I just need to redesign newsletter completely - or just, as before, type the text into the headers each time I do a newsletter. I was just hoping to remove the possibility of not remembering to update the header each time I do the newsletter (it's bi-monthly)

[wolboe]

In this case you should use custom text variables and not running headers
See:
https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/188919-custom-text-variables/&do=findComment&comment=1103864

[DebSki]

Hi

Thanks. That's mostly sorted it for me, but when I put the custom field on master A, it shows there in the body of the newsletter rather than the header & also shows on headers of pages based on master B, but when I look at the page based on master A, that text isn't there - the text frame is, uneditable, with x handles, but no text in it. On master A, it's formatted to blue text

Should I now be posting this in the other thread?

[wolboe]

For this costum text variable you only have to create a separate text frame on the master page B in the header area at a suitable position, which only contains the variable.
 

[DebSki]

The text is showing on pages based on master B, but not showing on the page based on master A, where I've put the custom field in a text frame on the page. Text shows on master, not on page based on master A

Master A                              page based on Master A

[wolboe]

Bring the layer of the text frame with the variable on the master page to the very front.

[DebSki]

I think it is at the front as it's the top one

[wolboe]

Please show the layers panel - I can't see it

[DebSki]

Sorry, thought it was there - too far to the right perhaps

[wolboe]

Last attempt (I am currently in hospital and have no access to my PC) 

WHAT happens if you delete all layers except the one with the custom field? Both on the master page and on the text page

[DebSki]

Thanks. I ended up deleting the whole page & then adding new page based on that master & it's now showing all the info! Thanks so much for your help. Good luck with whatever you're in hospital for

Deb