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Photo 2.3.0.2096 – dragging a photo on the Affinity Photo icon doesn't always open the program


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Hi

Not completely sure if this has only started with 2.3.0.2096, but I think so.

MacBookPro, restarted the laptop.

Steps:

– Affinity Photo is closed
– I drag an image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon, this opens the program correctly
– I then click on the red dot in the left top corner *, the program disappears
– after that, I drag another image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon
=> nothing happens, and I don't know where I can find the open program

– I have to quit it (via the Dock at the bottom of the screen) to be able to then open it again.

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 * I only see red / yellow / green, also when I hover over them – red should have an x inside, yellow a - and green the icon for "full screen" (this is how it is in the non beta version) - I only see that while clicking on them.

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> I then click on the red dot in the left top corner, the program disappears
> after that, I drag another image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon
> nothing happens

This works as expected in the productive version of Photo 1.2.1
(But, thinking about it, there is no difference between the red and the yellow button: both minimize the program without quitting it.)

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> Affinity Photo Beta 2.3.0.2096 is closed
> I drag an image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon, this opens the program correctly

But takes considerably more time than the productive version 1.2.1. I don't really mind that, though.

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1 hour ago, manu schwendener said:

Beta is not closed, but it doesn't show up o the right side of the Dok.

New Mac user here...

If it's not on the right side of the Dock, how do you know it's still running?

1 hour ago, manu schwendener said:

But, thinking about it, there is no difference between the red and the yellow button: both minimize the program without quitting it.

The Red button would only close the document, not the application, as I understand the Mac workflow. To close the program you would use the Menu, and choose Quit, wouldn't you?

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.3

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> how do you know it's still running?

Black dot under the icon on the left side. But clicking on that left icon doesn't un-minimize the program.

> To close the program you would use the Menu, and choose Quit, wouldn't you?

Yes, but:

> The Red button would only close the document, not the application

No (but that's not new) - to close the document but keep the application open, I use cmd&w.

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I've now updated the productive Affinity Photo to 2.2.1

The difference I still see in Beta:

1) I click on the red dot in the top left corner (same as in production - the hover state has now also disappered in prod.)
2) Affinity Photo is minimized (same as in production)
3) Dragging a photo on the icon of the program in the Dok does not un-minimize the program in Beta (but still correctly does in prod.)
4) Also clicking on the icon of the program in the Dok un-minimizes it in prod, but not in Beta.

The problem does not exist in Beta if I use the yellow button, not the red one: when I then drag another picture on the icon, the program un-minimizes as expected.

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Same here. Switch to Window -> Float View to Window and then it's shows up.

Switch back to Window -> Merge All Windows and it's gone again.

Macbook Pro mid 2015, 16 GB, double barrel: MacOS Mojave + Affinity 1 / MacOS Monterey + Affinity 2

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14 hours ago, manu schwendener said:

I then click on the red dot in the left top corner *, the program disappears

The program doesn't disapear, you're only closing its main window. The app is still running.

14 hours ago, manu schwendener said:

after that, I drag another image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon
=> nothing happens, and I don't know where I can find the open program

Good catch, that's indeed a new bug in v2.3 beta!

Amazingly, the window with the opened image is supposedly there, but it's totally invisible. Here a screenshot of my Desktop Spaces where you can see the blue outline of the invisible window including its preview in the Desktop Space #2 thumbnail on top. The actual window is not accessible though:

aph230_invisible_window.thumb.png.277bf2cc3f0781482829d86c643561c1.png

14 hours ago, manu schwendener said:

I have to quit it (via the Dock at the bottom of the screen) to be able to then open it again.

Yes, that will "fix" it for now.

14 hours ago, manu schwendener said:

* I only see red / yellow / green, also when I hover over them – red should have an x inside, yellow a - and green the icon for "full screen" (this is how it is in the non beta version) - I only see that while clicking on them.

It's broken in v2.2.1 on MacOS Ventura as well. In v1.10.6 the buttons behave (almost) correctly by showing the respective symbols on hover.

4 hours ago, manu schwendener said:

thinking about it, there is no difference between the red and the yellow button: both minimize the program without quitting it.

The difference is that the yellow button minimizes the window into the Dock while the red button closes the window altogether. (In some apps, the red button also quits the app altogether.)

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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1 hour ago, manu schwendener said:

> The Red button would only close the document, not the application

No (but that's not new) - to close the document but keep the application open, I use cmd&w.

Sorry, but with Photo 2 (2.2.1, not Beta) the red button leaves the application open, and only closes the document (if there is one) or the UI (if there is no document).

You can see that because the system menu still says Affinity Photo 2, unless you use the Affinity Photo 2 > Quit menu.

 

(Sorry; I'm having trouble attaching the screen recording.)

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.3

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18 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

having trouble attaching the screen recording

Screencasts on MacOS can get insanely large, filling up your forum upload quota quickly. Also, the forum software cannot play *.mov files inline.
What I'm doing is to compress a *.mov screencast with HandBrake while converting it to *.mp4. That can save up to 90% file size, depending on the compression algorithm used.
Here's my "Affinity Screencast" preset for HandBrake: Affinity Screencast 20210425.json

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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  • 2 weeks later...

For the record: not fixed in 2.3.0.2114 yet.

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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Just to expand on this issue: Designer Beta and Publisher Beta (v. 2.3(2114) also create 'invisible' workspaces once the opening workspace(s) are closed. Plus, it's not just drag-and-drop, but applies to creating a new workspace, and using 'open' or 'open recent' from the file menu or shortcuts. 
 

macOS 12.7.2, Late 2015 5k, 27-inch iMac, i7 Quad Core Intel.

iMac, 27-inch, Late 2015, 

4GHz Quad-Core i7,

Monterey, ver. 12.6.8

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2 hours ago, skenaga said:

Just to expand on this issue: Designer Beta and Publisher Beta (v. 2.3(2114) also create 'invisible' workspaces once the opening workspace(s) are closed. Plus, it's not just drag-and-drop, but applies to creating a new workspace, and using 'open' or 'open recent' from the file menu or shortcuts. 

Exactly.

In my opinion, this should be a "high priority fix" issue because it makes the current beta versions practically unusable in my workflow.

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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The issue "macOS Main Window fails to re-appear when reopening documents via dragging over dock icon or open via double click" (REF: AF-989) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.3.0.2150".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

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Not fixed for me on Mac with 2.3.0.2157:

– I have Affinity Photo open, and a picture open in it
– I close AP with the red dot in the top left corner (no x on hover visible in the red dot)

– I drag a second picture in the AP icon in my Dock

-> AP opens, with the second picture open = improvement to earlier versions.
 
But: I only see the second picture, not two tabs = the first picture is not visible for me


 

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1 hour ago, manu schwendener said:

I close AP with the red dot in the top left corner

1 hour ago, manu schwendener said:

I only see the second picture, not two tabs = the first picture is not visible for me

Because the first image was also closed while you were closing the main application window using the red button.

  • If you would have made any edits, then Affinity would first ask you if you want to save the changes or not.
  • If no changes were made, then any open document will "silently" close together with the main window frame.

That's definitely by design and consistent with all Affinity versions as well as with many other apps.

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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