manu schwendener Posted October 25, 2023 Posted October 25, 2023 Hi Not completely sure if this has only started with 2.3.0.2096, but I think so. MacBookPro, restarted the laptop. Steps: – Affinity Photo is closed – I drag an image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon, this opens the program correctly – I then click on the red dot in the left top corner *, the program disappears – after that, I drag another image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon => nothing happens, and I don't know where I can find the open program – I have to quit it (via the Dock at the bottom of the screen) to be able to then open it again. --- * I only see red / yellow / green, also when I hover over them – red should have an x inside, yellow a - and green the icon for "full screen" (this is how it is in the non beta version) - I only see that while clicking on them. Quote manuschwendener.ch
manu schwendener Posted October 25, 2023 Author Posted October 25, 2023 (On the other hand, a problem with cropping is fixed now – which I'm glad for, because I didn't know how to describe it.) Quote manuschwendener.ch
manu schwendener Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 > I then click on the red dot in the left top corner, the program disappears > after that, I drag another image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon > nothing happens This works as expected in the productive version of Photo 1.2.1 (But, thinking about it, there is no difference between the red and the yellow button: both minimize the program without quitting it.) --- > Affinity Photo Beta 2.3.0.2096 is closed > I drag an image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon, this opens the program correctly But takes considerably more time than the productive version 1.2.1. I don't really mind that, though. Quote manuschwendener.ch
manu schwendener Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 Beta is not closed, but it doesn't show up o the right side of the Dok. Quote manuschwendener.ch
walt.farrell Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, manu schwendener said: Beta is not closed, but it doesn't show up o the right side of the Dok. New Mac user here... If it's not on the right side of the Dock, how do you know it's still running? 1 hour ago, manu schwendener said: But, thinking about it, there is no difference between the red and the yellow button: both minimize the program without quitting it. The Red button would only close the document, not the application, as I understand the Mac workflow. To close the program you would use the Menu, and choose Quit, wouldn't you? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
manu schwendener Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) > how do you know it's still running? Black dot under the icon on the left side. But clicking on that left icon doesn't un-minimize the program. > To close the program you would use the Menu, and choose Quit, wouldn't you? Yes, but: > The Red button would only close the document, not the application No (but that's not new) - to close the document but keep the application open, I use cmd&w. Edited October 26, 2023 by manu schwendener walt.farrell 1 Quote manuschwendener.ch
manu schwendener Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 I've now updated the productive Affinity Photo to 2.2.1 The difference I still see in Beta: 1) I click on the red dot in the top left corner (same as in production - the hover state has now also disappered in prod.) 2) Affinity Photo is minimized (same as in production) 3) Dragging a photo on the icon of the program in the Dok does not un-minimize the program in Beta (but still correctly does in prod.) 4) Also clicking on the icon of the program in the Dok un-minimizes it in prod, but not in Beta. The problem does not exist in Beta if I use the yellow button, not the red one: when I then drag another picture on the icon, the program un-minimizes as expected. Quote manuschwendener.ch
RM f/g Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 Same here. Switch to Window -> Float View to Window and then it's shows up. Switch back to Window -> Merge All Windows and it's gone again. Quote Macbook Pro mid 2015, 16 GB, double barrel: MacOS Mojave + Affinity 1 (+ Adobe’s CS6)/ MacOS Monterey + Affinity 2
manu schwendener Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) > Switch to Window -> Float Wiew to Window Thank you - good to know this as a workaround. Edit: that's not working for me, anyway – all the tools are missing. Edited October 28, 2023 by manu schwendener Quote manuschwendener.ch
loukash Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 14 hours ago, manu schwendener said: I then click on the red dot in the left top corner *, the program disappears The program doesn't disapear, you're only closing its main window. The app is still running. 14 hours ago, manu schwendener said: after that, I drag another image from the desktop onto the Affinity Photo icon => nothing happens, and I don't know where I can find the open program Good catch, that's indeed a new bug in v2.3 beta! Amazingly, the window with the opened image is supposedly there, but it's totally invisible. Here a screenshot of my Desktop Spaces where you can see the blue outline of the invisible window including its preview in the Desktop Space #2 thumbnail on top. The actual window is not accessible though: 14 hours ago, manu schwendener said: I have to quit it (via the Dock at the bottom of the screen) to be able to then open it again. Yes, that will "fix" it for now. 14 hours ago, manu schwendener said: * I only see red / yellow / green, also when I hover over them – red should have an x inside, yellow a - and green the icon for "full screen" (this is how it is in the non beta version) - I only see that while clicking on them. It's broken in v2.2.1 on MacOS Ventura as well. In v1.10.6 the buttons behave (almost) correctly by showing the respective symbols on hover. 4 hours ago, manu schwendener said: thinking about it, there is no difference between the red and the yellow button: both minimize the program without quitting it. The difference is that the yellow button minimizes the window into the Dock while the red button closes the window altogether. (In some apps, the red button also quits the app altogether.) Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
walt.farrell Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 1 hour ago, manu schwendener said: > The Red button would only close the document, not the application No (but that's not new) - to close the document but keep the application open, I use cmd&w. Sorry, but with Photo 2 (2.2.1, not Beta) the red button leaves the application open, and only closes the document (if there is one) or the UI (if there is no document). You can see that because the system menu still says Affinity Photo 2, unless you use the Affinity Photo 2 > Quit menu. (Sorry; I'm having trouble attaching the screen recording.) Oufti 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
loukash Posted October 26, 2023 Posted October 26, 2023 18 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: having trouble attaching the screen recording Screencasts on MacOS can get insanely large, filling up your forum upload quota quickly. Also, the forum software cannot play *.mov files inline. What I'm doing is to compress a *.mov screencast with HandBrake while converting it to *.mp4. That can save up to 90% file size, depending on the compression algorithm used. Here's my "Affinity Screencast" preset for HandBrake: Affinity Screencast 20210425.json Oufti and walt.farrell 2 Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
manu schwendener Posted October 26, 2023 Author Posted October 26, 2023 > Good catch 🙂 Quote manuschwendener.ch
Staff Sean P Posted October 30, 2023 Staff Posted October 30, 2023 Hi manu schwendener, Thank you very much for letting us know. I've reproduced this and will get it passed along to development. manu schwendener 1 Quote
Staff Sean P Posted October 30, 2023 Staff Posted October 30, 2023 On 10/26/2023 at 2:51 PM, loukash said: It's broken in v2.2.1 on MacOS Ventura as well. In v1.10.6 the buttons behave (almost) correctly by showing the respective symbols on hover. Thanks - I've also replicated this and will get it logged. Quote
loukash Posted November 7, 2023 Posted November 7, 2023 For the record: not fixed in 2.3.0.2114 yet. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
skenaga Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 Just to expand on this issue: Designer Beta and Publisher Beta (v. 2.3(2114) also create 'invisible' workspaces once the opening workspace(s) are closed. Plus, it's not just drag-and-drop, but applies to creating a new workspace, and using 'open' or 'open recent' from the file menu or shortcuts. macOS 12.7.2, Late 2015 5k, 27-inch iMac, i7 Quad Core Intel. Quote iMac, 27-inch, Late 2015, 4GHz Quad-Core i7, Monterey, ver. 12.6.8
loukash Posted November 8, 2023 Posted November 8, 2023 2 hours ago, skenaga said: Just to expand on this issue: Designer Beta and Publisher Beta (v. 2.3(2114) also create 'invisible' workspaces once the opening workspace(s) are closed. Plus, it's not just drag-and-drop, but applies to creating a new workspace, and using 'open' or 'open recent' from the file menu or shortcuts. Exactly. In my opinion, this should be a "high priority fix" issue because it makes the current beta versions practically unusable in my workflow. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
loukash Posted November 16, 2023 Posted November 16, 2023 Still not fixed as of 2.3.0.2139… Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
Staff MEB Posted November 16, 2023 Staff Posted November 16, 2023 If there's no Serif Bot info in the post saying the issue was fixed then it wasn't looked at yet. loukash 1 Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted November 21, 2023 Staff Posted November 21, 2023 The issue "macOS Main Window fails to re-appear when reopening documents via dragging over dock icon or open via double click" (REF: AF-989) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.3.0.2150". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. Quote
loukash Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 Appears to be fixed now. Nice! Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
manu schwendener Posted November 24, 2023 Author Posted November 24, 2023 (edited) Not fixed for me on Mac with 2.3.0.2157: – I have Affinity Photo open, and a picture open in it – I close AP with the red dot in the top left corner (no x on hover visible in the red dot) – I drag a second picture in the AP icon in my Dock -> AP opens, with the second picture open = improvement to earlier versions. But: I only see the second picture, not two tabs = the first picture is not visible for me Edited November 24, 2023 by manu schwendener Quote manuschwendener.ch
loukash Posted November 24, 2023 Posted November 24, 2023 1 hour ago, manu schwendener said: I close AP with the red dot in the top left corner 1 hour ago, manu schwendener said: I only see the second picture, not two tabs = the first picture is not visible for me Because the first image was also closed while you were closing the main application window using the red button. If you would have made any edits, then Affinity would first ask you if you want to save the changes or not. If no changes were made, then any open document will "silently" close together with the main window frame. That's definitely by design and consistent with all Affinity versions as well as with many other apps. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2
manu schwendener Posted November 24, 2023 Author Posted November 24, 2023 Ok, that makes sense. Quote manuschwendener.ch
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