Future of AP for Windows with LibRaw?

[krbo]

Recently this becomes hot topic for me and it looks I'll be forced to say goodbye to AP after being a user and supporter from first Windows beta version.

Why?

I'll soon buy (within a 2 months) a new camera - Lumix DC-G9II and having a new sensor it's RAW are not readable by AP.

Many of us knows that Serif relies on free LibRaw library to support various RAW formats but problem lies in that libraw is free, done by enthusiasts for no money so they couldn't care less to include new formats as soon as possible. If you check their web site you may conclude that it takes up to two years to add "new" camera.

This is totally unacceptable for a product I bought and paid. It's OK when a free app relies on a free product but something commercial???

What if LibRaw team says "it's enough, bye people!" ???

 

Serif, you are shooting your leg!

No, I will not use Adobe DNG converter or any other app for a years until my camera is natively supported!

 

For example latest Panasonic m43 camera was GH6 launched 22.02.2022. and it's RAW is still not supported so I see what to expect.

(and recently I saw a question what about Sony A6700 support?)

 

Something should be changed or AP will become known as "nice one for several years old cameras"

oh, would it be useful to mention that LR Classic v13 (and Camera RAW 16) already have RAW support for my new, not even on the market, camera?

 

I really, really don't want to drop on AP but...

 

Any thoughts from other users, Serif ???

 

 

[v_kyr]

2 hours ago, krbo said:

This is totally unacceptable for a product I bought and paid. It's OK when a free app relies on a free product but something commercial???

What if LibRaw team says "it's enough, bye people!" ???

If LibRaw or Lensfun would disappear project wise from the scene, then they would need to use some alternative to those, either freeware or third-party licensed, as far as APh then still wants to include and support RAW processing via some persona. - Personally I don't use APh for RAW processing, as there are either way better RAW converters for these purposes.

And what if you wouldn't have APh at all?

Any camera vendor who's sells cams which support to shoot RAW, usually also do offer an accompanied software for processing their cam RAW format files. For Panasonic it's probably Silkypix. - Other than that the big guys in the RAW converter market (Adobe LR/CR, CaptureOne, DxO ...) are usually fast in applying support for new camera models on the market.

[krbo]

from your workflow you woulnd't be affected even if AP stops to develop any RAW format 😀

yes, Adobe already done everything to support my next camera from ACR, Photoshop, Lightroom to DNG converter. Three weeks before delivery even starts.

it's sad my favorite editor will have it after a year or two or more...

[Tawny]

Agreed. Lumix S5 Mark II user here and still waiting for AP/Libraw support on Windows. AF is not getting used anymore now I have a new camera.

 

Edited February 15, 2024 by Tawny

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, Tawny said:

Agreed. Lumix S5 Mark II user here and still waiting for AP/Libraw support on Windows. AF is not getting used anymore now I have a new camera.

 

I think that's one of the cameras that will be supported in 2.4, based on this beta post. You could try installing the beta to confirm, if you haven't done so already.

 

 

[krbo]

Yes, S5II RAW works with 2.4 beta, my G9II also (even now old G6) - all tested with sample files.

[Tawny]

It is excellent news. Thanks for the tip.