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What kind of changes are you making?

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If you turn off synching then make a change to a symbol certain attributes can become unlinked (e.g. Opacity, Fill Colour, Stroke, Transformations etc)

Once that particular attribute is unlinked you can't re-sync it but other attributes will re-sync when you turn synching back on in the Symbols panel

The layers panel will indicate a layer has some sort of unlinked attribute by displaying a dashed, vertical orange line next to it rather than the standard solid one used for symbols

The attributes that are unlinked can be seen by hovering near these dash lines in the Layers panel

This is all further complicated by the fact that objects within the symbol can have unlinked/linked attributes and the symbol itself can have unlinked/linked attributes working separately and together.

Also, when you unlink an attribute at the symbol level you can get unexpected other attributes unlinked also, which do not get unlinked if you unlinked the same attribute at the object level

It all gets a bit very confusing at times

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15 hours ago, Calvert said:

Without getting deep i to a project....For simplicity, Lets say I have 2 text symbols, want to rotate 1, then resync to further changes can be made together.  They won't re-sync.

Here on Mac OS 12.7.0 I have no difficulty with doing that. I have a Symbol and one of the things in it is a line of text. I make two instances of it and in one I select the text layer, turn off syncing and rotate it, then turn syncing back on. Now I have two Symbols and I can change the Letters in one of them and the other will also have the new letters change.

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I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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4 minutes ago, Calvert said:

That wont work with windows for some reason....

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That makes Symbols rather useless then.

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It works on Windows, too.

 

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    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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Works fine here on Windows 11 also

To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.

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19 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

That makes Symbols rather useless then.

Whaaat? I don't agree with that statement. It just means Symbols are not functioning as the OP wants in his situation. But if you think Symbols are useless, perhaps Serif should just trash the whole feature, remove it, erase it from everyone's memory... 😄

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