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1 hour ago, ennuied said:

It continues in blue as the other curve, you have to admit this is stupid and highly unintuitive.

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It’s difficult to tell exactly what you’re doing, but at a rough guess you drew a brown line, then drew a blue line. Next you tried to extend the brown line, but actually drew a new line {starting where the brown line ended} so the third line was the same colour, blue, as the last one you drew! However, as you did not include the Layers Panel in your screen grab, it’s a little difficult to know for sure.

NB - You can’t have a single line which is more than one colour!

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On 9/22/2023 at 9:06 PM, PaulEC said:

It’s difficult to tell exactly what you’re doing, but at a rough guess you drew a brown line, then drew a blue line. Next you tried to extend the brown line, but actually drew a new line {starting where the brown line ended} so the third line was the same colour, blue, as the last one you drew! However, as you did not include the Layers Panel in your screen grab, it’s a little difficult to know for sure.

NB - You can’t have a single line which is more than one colour!

So how do you continue a line. You should be able to just click on the node and continue.

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13 minutes ago, ennuied said:

So how do you continue a line. You should be able to just click on the node and continue.

Assuming you have an open Curve selected:

  • Pen Tool is active: hold down cmd to temporarily activate Node Tool, select the node from which you wish to continue, release cmd key and then place further nodes.
  • Pencil Tool is active: enable Sculpt mode then draw from the desired node.
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36 minutes ago, ennuied said:

So how do you continue a line. You should be able to just click on the node and continue.

Basically as @lepr suggested, but here's a related Help page: https://affinity.help/designer2/en-US.lproj/pages/CurvesShapes/draw_linesAndShapes.html

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On 9/24/2023 at 6:52 PM, lepr said:

Assuming you have an open Curve selected:

  • Pen Tool is active: hold down cmd to temporarily activate Node Tool, select the node from which you wish to continue, release cmd key and then place further nodes.
  • Pencil Tool is active: enable Sculpt mode then draw from the desired node.

Thanks. But I think "Node Tool" shouldn't exist, it's primitive.

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36 minutes ago, ennuied said:

But I think "Node Tool" shouldn't exist,

And with which tool would you like to modify the shape of the curves?

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1 hour ago, ennuied said:

Thanks. But I think "Node Tool" shouldn't exist, it's primitive.

It's what you've got, and what you need to use, unless you want to redraw the curve from scratch or use something besides the Affinity applications.

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22 hours ago, Pšenda said:

And with which tool would you like to modify the shape of the curves?

By clicking the node you should be able to continue the line. If you want to create another curve don't click on the node, just drag. There's so many ways to make it more intuitive, with the least amount of goddamn clicking.

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3 minutes ago, ennuied said:

with the least amount of goddamn clicking.

It just takes the one click, with the Ctrl key (Windows) or Cmd key (Mac) pressed. You can't get many fewer than that.

4 minutes ago, ennuied said:

If you want to create another curve don't click on the node, just drag.

Then where would that curve start? You need a click of some kind to position the initial node.

This is all explained above, and in the Help.

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16 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

You can't get many fewer than that.

… and you can't get many more options … to achieve a specific tool behaviour, @ennuied. Therefore it helps to keep an eye on the available modifier keys listed in the status bar tool tips at the bottom … and to notice the various cursors that change their icon + function with your cursor position even without pressing a key, for instance:

Move Tool:
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Pen Tool: (most of the various Pen Tool cursors can't get screenshot)
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Node Tool:
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On 9/27/2023 at 12:10 PM, thomaso said:

… and you can't get many more options … to achieve a specific tool behaviour, @ennuied. Therefore it helps to keep an eye on the available modifier keys listed in the status bar tool tips at the bottom … and to notice the various cursors that change their icon + function with your cursor position even without pressing a key, for instance:

Move Tool:
tooltipstatusbar1move.thumb.jpg.f477a8a70eda63ed3c18b81f2fa9f76e.jpg

tooltipstatusbar2move.thumb.jpg.2a2a914e14b0a23af5abb03a84705026.jpg

tooltipstatusbar3move.thumb.jpg.e6690eefcdbe70bfd3ab3a52f64f866d.jpg

 

Pen Tool: (most of the various Pen Tool cursors can't get screenshot)
tooltipstatusbar4pen.thumb.jpg.3e4aa183db29b7884333a2f23af91b81.jpg
 

Node Tool:
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I can't read that text it's too tiny on my macbook and I don't have stellar eyesight. but fair enough I actually found a setting to make the "font" larger. Should it be called font or text? I thought font is about style not size.

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On 9/26/2023 at 7:30 PM, walt.farrell said:

It just takes the one click, with the Ctrl key (Windows) or Cmd key (Mac) pressed. You can't get many fewer than that.

Then where would that curve start? You need a click of some kind to position the initial node.

This is all explained above, and in the Help.

But still. When the curve is not selected and you hover at one of its edges you get a grey sphere so that gives you an idea where it ends, from there you make your click and start a new curve. But if you want to continue the old curve, you click one more time. So double click, a one-hand action.

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55 minutes ago, ennuied said:

I can't read that text it's too tiny on my macbook

In your app – or here in the forum? Within the forum you can click on an image to enlarge it. (or simply zoom in with your trackpad)

If you need the bottom status bar tool tips in the app in a larger size you can choose in the Affinity Preferences -> User Interface -> Font UI Size > Large. If this is still too small you would need to change the screen resolution in your system settings (which will affect everything and in every app).

1 hour ago, ennuied said:

Should it be called font or text? I thought font is about style not size.

IMHO: Concerning typography / layout both are right. Size is one of several style properties. Increased font size is a condition for larger text, a certain font size remains identical if you edit the text while the text size can change if you change the font. Font is a medium while text is content. We think thoughts as text, images or emotions, – hardly as font. Fonts don't necessarily display text, they also may contain icons, logos, images. Text gets written, font is used to visualize text. "He has a small handwriting" refers to the font rather than the text. "She wrote a great text" is independent of font and size. Words can get counted, text may count. ...

Germans have two words for the plural of 'Wort' (word): While the term "Worte" refers to their meaning / content, "Wörter" refer rather to the combination of letters or the number of words, independent of a meaning.

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9 minutes ago, thomaso said:

In your app – or here in the forum? Within the forum you can click on an image to enlarge it. (or simply zoom in with your trackpad)

If you need the bottom status bar tool tips in the app in a larger size you can choose in the Affinity Preferences -> User Interface -> Font UI Size > Large. If this is still too small you would need to change the screen resolution in your system settings (which will affect everything and in every app).

IMHO: Concerning typography / layout both are right. Size is one of several style properties. Increased font size is a condition for larger text, a certain font size remains identical if you edit the text while the text size can change if you change the font. Font is a medium while text is content. We think thoughts as text, images or emotions, – hardly as font. Fonts don't necessarily display text, they also may contain icons, logos, images. Text gets written, font is used to visualize text. "He has a small handwriting" refers to the font rather than the text. "She wrote a great text" is independent of font and size. Words can get counted, text may count. ...

Germans have two words for the plural of 'Wort' (word): While the term "Worte" refers to their meaning / content, "Wörter" refer rather to the combination of letters or the number of words, independent of a meaning.

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