Stuck on this ! Need Help ?

[augustya]

Hi Guys, 

I need some help so I was working on this photo and I was trying to make the uneven surface on the T-shirt to a more even colour and texture, so I have used a Frequency Separation and created a High Frequency and a Low Frequency Layer and then using the clone tool to correct the texture, I was using the Clone Tool in in high frequency and for correction in the colour I was doing it in low frequency. 

But I think I might have gone a little too far in making the surface even, I did not pay attention to the different folds, creases, and wrinkles the T-shirt had and used the Clone Tool also on the Shadows and Wrinkles and Creases on the T-shirt. As a result it is now started looking like a plain paper attached to the T-shirt. 

what I am looking out for is, I have the original photo is there any way that we can still recreate the shadow effect the fold which the T-shirt had and it is showing on the original picture?

I had created a Snapshot file of this Photo just before making this last correction. BUt I dont where it has got saved, just cant seem to find it and it is also not showing in the APP under Snapshot.

Pictures attached.

 

[RichardMH]

You probably want to use a Displace map. (Filters->Distort->Displace or as a live filter). There are a few youtube videos on using it. Its a bit fiddly at first.

[augustya]

1 minute ago, RichardMH said:

You probably want to use a Displace msp. (Filters->Distort->Displace or as a live filter). There are a few youtube videos on using it. Its a bit fiddly at first.

Use Displace MSP and do what ? what are we trying to achieve ? our goal ? what will using that do ? can you explain how will it help ?

[RichardMH]

Sorry meant map. This sort of thing. But hunt around.

 

[augustya]

5 minutes ago, RichardMH said:

Sorry meant map. This sort of thing. But hunt around.

But I am just trying to create some wrinkles and creases in the stomach area not in to the entire image I saw this video but I cannot seem to find how can I create the distortion in certain desired area?

Also since now I am working on a Frequency Separation Layer which has created a High Frequency ad Low Frequency Layer how will this Filter work ? will I have to combine an group the High and Low Frequency Layers ?

[carl123]

1 hour ago, augustya said:

But I am just trying to create some wrinkles and creases in the stomach area

What sort of wrinkles & creases?

Those that conform to the body/torso underneath or ones that looks like the shirt was not ironed?

 

[augustya]

5 minutes ago, carl123 said:

What sort of wrinkles & creases?

Those that conform to the body/torso underneath or ones that looks like the shirt was not ironed?

 

The first one. But just the Crease formation around the left stomach/waist around the left hand where the watch is.

[augustya]

23 hours ago, carl123 said:

What sort of wrinkles & creases?

Those that conform to the body/torso underneath or ones that looks like the shirt was not ironed?

 

You showed yesterday what could be achieved as end results, but you didn’t  mention how to achieve it?

It would be great if you could show or suggest some steps and tricks on how to achieve those wrinkles increases on the T-shirt after making it even using the clone tool in the frequency Separation Low Frequency?

I was thinking maybe doing anything in the Low Frequency Layer would not be possible, so I guess I hope not that I will have to Combine it into single layer and then maybe something could be possible ? Is it ?

[carl123]

All I did was downloaded a picture of someone's "6 pack" from the internet

Positioned it and changed blend mode to screen

Then just did what was necessary to blend the colours in to match where possible

I haven't got a Scooby doo about what technique you are trying to do by... "using the clone tool in the frequency Separation Low Frequency"

But I am following this thread to see if it is something I can use in the future

[augustya]

56 minutes ago, carl123 said:

All I did was downloaded a picture of someone's "6 pack" from the internet

Positioned it and changed blend mode to screen

Then just did what was necessary to blend the colours in to match where possible

I haven't got a Scooby doo about what technique you are trying to do by... "using the clone tool in the frequency Separation Low Frequency"

But I am following this thread to see if it is something I can use in the future

Ok, I will tell you what I am doing with the frequency separation filter in this photo, so this subject has a lot of skin irregularities and for that I have created a frequency, separation layer and I am working on the low frequency and the high frequency to correct the skin, irregularities with the colour and texture,

Also the subject complains about having a protruding man’s chest and the other day I saw a video where somebody was showing the best way to correct wrinkles on a shirt is create of frequency separation and work on the texture and colour in the frequency separation, keeping the same example  in mind what I am trying to do now is using a clone tool and taking the most flattest part of the chest. I’m trying to clone it on the protruding areas of chest.

So I am wondering in a frequency separation layer, how will I use any other form of technique unless I combine the layers right?

Also one more thing the method that you showed about downloading a picture from the internet and then using a blend mode to merge the picture on to the layer I’m not sure if I want to do the same thing all I am looking out for is since I have used a clone tool from the flattest  part of the chest and clone the entire area from the chest to the abdomen, I want to make it look natural where there are some creases and shadows and folds coming on the T-shirt. That is what my question was. How can I do that? 

[RichardMH]

The Patch Tool gives more control than cloning with frequency separation. Might do what you want more easily. You can work around the creases you want to leave. 

 

[augustya]

1 hour ago, RichardMH said:

The Patch Tool gives more control than cloning with frequency separation. Might do what you want more easily. You can work around the creases you want to leave. 

 

Sure will give it a try. Thanks for pointing out. 

[augustya]

11 hours ago, RichardMH said:

The Patch Tool gives more control than cloning with frequency separation. Might do what you want more easily. You can work around the creases you want to leave. 

 

Infact I was wondering would it possible to let's say if I have the same shirt from the collection of photos that the subject would have got clicked can I copy the shirt part from other photo and use that selection on this photo or directly copy paste the selection from that photo to this photo ? Would such a thing be possible ?

[RichardMH]

On 9/17/2023 at 1:00 AM, augustya said:

Infact I was wondering would it possible to let's say if I have the same shirt from the collection of photos that the subject would have got clicked can I copy the shirt part from other photo and use that selection on this photo or directly copy paste the selection from that photo to this photo ? Would such a thing be possible ?

Basically yes. But it might be easier to change the colour of the existing shirt if that's all you want to do.

[augustya]

1 hour ago, RichardMH said:

Basically yes. But it might be easier to change the colour of the existing shirt if that's all you want to do.

No what I am not just trying to change the colour I want to copy the Flatten Part of his chest on to the same looking another photo.