Issues when adding page on document with smart master pages

[Carlera]

 

When I add a single page in my document on publisher it messes with the entire layout of the other pages and also creates multiple pages.

Also when I move pages around it screws with the entire layout of all the pages below the pages I moved. So if I am using smart master pages that means I can't add new pages or move pages around? 

In the second video I show how I moved the page that uses the same smart page and then the content disappears and the page is not moved.

Now I have 62 page document that I spent a day working on and my client now wants to add some extra pages but an easy task means that I will need to do it all over again. Is that a bug, am I missing something? I hope it is not a bug and someone can help me with a solution.

 

 

 

Edited September 13, 2023 by Carlera

[MikeTO]

Adding, moving, and deleting single pages is difficult in a facing-pages document. Doing this can lead to have duplicate master page objects - for example, the left side might have the master applied to it and thus have frames on the right and the right side might have a separate copy of the master and thus have frames on the left, leading to double frames. 

The best suggestion is to re-apply the master page to the new spread, the one in which you inserted a page.

Good luck.

[Carlera]

It happens when I add a spread as well. Honestly, it is ridiculous that you can't move pages around in the document with master pages. I really like Affinity Publisher but I never had this problem while using InDesign.

Edited September 12, 2023 by Carlera

[Carlera]

it should at least retain the format regardless of the position of the page. Replay the master page doesn't work either. Why does the content disappear?  So I will need to reapply the master pages in all the other pages in the entire document? sorry but that sounds unworkable.

[MikeTO]

I agree this could work a bit better. It works pretty well if you add, move, or delete entire spreads but not single pages.

Please see this other spread from last week where I gave a more fulsome answer.

There are other ways to lay out your document that avoid this issue. One way that would have worked would be to create the document as a single story, one long series of frames linked from page to page. The images could have been inline and formatted with a paragraph style that inserted an automatic page break before them. To move a single page you'd just cut and paste the image and text like in a word processor.

Cheers

[Carlera]

Thanks for trying to help me, but this is a way around of an issue that should not even be happening in the first place. Ultimately it will not help in my case as it means redoing all the document again. 

 

Thanks anyway

[Carlera]

 

 

@MikeTO 

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Adding, moving, and deleting single pages is difficult in a facing-pages document. Doing this can lead to have duplicate master page objects - for example, the left side might have the master applied to it and thus have frames on the right and the right side might have a separate copy of the master and thus have frames on the left, leading to double frames. 

Adding, moving and deleting pages is a very common thing when designing multiple pages regardless if it is a facing-pages or a single-page document with master pages. There is nothing extraordinary in it, it is just a normal workflow practice. I've spent 8 hours working on this project and I will need to spend at least another 4 hours to redo it. In our profession time is money and I could basically pay for one year of Adobe subscription with the money that I've lost on this project.  I already have an Adobe subscription and I have bought Affinity Suit v1 and v2, because I want to support this company, I really enjoy working with Affinity products, but that issue was a kick in the guts.  This is a kind of bug or whatever you can call it that needs to be addressed immediately. 

Just to illustrate how easy it is done on InDesign I have attached a video showing that. 

Screen Recording 2023-09-13 at 12.03.39 PM.mov

Edited September 13, 2023 by Carlera
Carlera

[MikeTO]

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm a fellow user of Publisher like you. I wish it handled this a better but there are ways to work around it, you just have to know how it works before you start laying out your document. Hopefully it will be improved in the future.

Good luck

[Catshill]

It sounds similar to this issue  - Cannot clear master page from a page

 

[Dan C]

Hi Carlera,

Would it be possible for you to save this document as a package and upload it to our dropbox here for us to investigate:

https://www.dropbox.com/request/gAlcIb6TMZOJ1YAWaZYI

Lee

[Carlera]

@Lee_T I've just uploaded the document to the dropbox link.

 

Thanks