Panchdara Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 I draw a rectangle and change stroke and fill. I then Edit/Defaults/Synchronize from Selection.... seems to work I then Edit/Defaults/Factory Reset and it dosn't change the stroke and fill I had changed earlier.... am I missing something here? Win 10/ AD 2.2.1994
walt.farrell Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 23 minutes ago, Panchdara said: and it dosn't change the stroke and fill I had changed earlier It would not change the stroke and fill of the object you already created, if that's what you mean. But have you tried this sequence? Deselect the current object. Change to a new Tool Change back to the Rectangle Shape Tool. At that point, does the Context Toolbar show the default stroke/fill or the values you Synchronized? -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop 1: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 26.0, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.6.1
Dan C Posted September 12, 2023 Posted September 12, 2023 11 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: It would not change the stroke and fill of the object you already created, if that's what you mean. Provided that Rectangle is still actively selected, I would expect the defaults to be reverted for the drawn shape, and any further created shapes: 2023-09-12 12-36-57.mp4 However as shown if the object is not selected when using Revert to Defaults, the previous style will be retained. Are you seeing different behaviour with the object selected please @Panchdara? walt.farrell 1
Panchdara Posted September 13, 2023 Author Posted September 13, 2023 You guys misunderstand I think. I change an object (rectangle) stroke and fill. Edit/Defaults/Synchronize from Selection Great. Any time I use that rectangle it is drawn with the new stroke & fill. As expected. I close and restart AD (1994) and when I select that rectangle the stroke/fill are what I synchronnized. As expected. I deselect that rectangle and Edit/Defaults/Factory Reset. Great. Draw a new rectangle and it reverts to "Factory"... as expected. Close and reopen AD. Draw a rectangle and the "Factory Reset" is NOT Reset.... it draws rectangle with same stroke&fill as before, not the Factory Reset. Does that mak sense? Or is the Factory Reset only for that session nd I'll have to select that rectngle and do another Synchronise from Selection... or Save??? So, what is Revert for? Thanks. walt.farrell 1
R C-R Posted September 13, 2023 Posted September 13, 2023 To make the Factory Reset 'stick' between launches, use Edit > Defaults > Save. All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps (currently 2.6.4); 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Panchdara Posted September 13, 2023 Author Posted September 13, 2023 that's what I thought - so it's a 2-stage procedure... sorta counter productive - but if that's the way it is then so be it... so much for "Factoy"... perhaps "Session Reset" and have a "Permanent Factory Reset"???? Life continues.
Dan C Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 Many thanks for clearing that up for me! I've checked the Helpfile regarding object defaults and I can see the following: Synchronise is specifically used for your currently active documentSave is used for all future documents Revert will return the object/tool to your previously Saved settingsFactory Reset will return the object/tool to the default app settings However unfortunately it is not clear from the helpfile if the Factory Reset option is supposed to be document-wide, or application-wide at this time. I can certainly understand the expectation of this option being app-wide, without requiring the use of Defaults > Save after resetting, therefore I have raised this with our team internally and I'll be sure to update you here with any information I'm provided walt.farrell 1
R C-R Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Dan C said: However unfortunately it is not clear from the helpfile if the Factory Reset option is supposed to be document-wide, or application-wide at this time. If my (increasingly unreliable) memory serves, wasn't it application-wide in V1? All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps (currently 2.6.4); 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Dan C Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, R C-R said: If my (increasingly unreliable) memory serves, wasn't it application-wide in V1? The same behaviour occurs in V1 & V2 in my testing, Factory Reset is only retained for the currently opened document - unless Defaults > Save is used after resetting R C-R 1
R C-R Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Dan C said: The same behaviour occurs in V1 & V2 in my testing, Factory Reset is only retained for the currently opened document - unless Defaults > Save is used after resetting OK. Then I guess it is the intended ("by design") behavior, just not as clear as it could be from the help topic that it is. All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.6 Mac apps (currently 2.6.4); 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Dan C Posted September 14, 2023 Posted September 14, 2023 I believe that to be the case, but I'll be sure to update this thread with the official response from the team R C-R 1
Dan C Posted September 15, 2023 Posted September 15, 2023 Just to confirm, the following is currently expected behaviour - only Defaults > Save will retain the current options in new documents/after restarting the app, including when using Factory Reset: On 9/13/2023 at 5:42 PM, Panchdara said: so it's a 2-stage procedure... sorta counter productive - but if that's the way it is then so be it... so much for "Factoy"... perhaps "Session Reset" and have a "Permanent Factory Reset"? However, I can certainly understand the expectation of the Factory Reset option being a 'one-step' operation, automatically reverting the defaults application-wide, rather than for this specific document only and therefore I'm logging this as a potential improvement with our dev team now, to be considered for a future update. I hope this helps
Panchdara Posted September 16, 2023 Author Posted September 16, 2023 19 hours ago, Dan C said: Just to confirm, the following is currently expected behaviour - only Defaults > Save will retain the current options in new documents/after restarting the app, including when using Factory Reset: However, I can certainly understand the expectation of the Factory Reset option being a 'one-step' operation, automatically reverting the defaults application-wide, rather than for this specific document only and therefore I'm logging this as a potential improvement with our dev team now, to be considered for a future update. I hope this helps Thanks much. I hope not too big of an issue. Best regards
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