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Dear fans of Affinity,

today I encountered an issue similar to this one:

 

I attach the JPG file in question. You can download the afphoto file from here:

https://ulrichbangert.de/div/affinity/151-160_flat_2_denoised_Topaz_cropped.afphoto

In the JPG export the tail of the comet is not visible completely.

I fiddled a lot with modifying the color profile, which was successful for my previous issue but no success.

Best regards, Ulrich

PS: I exported to PNG, TIFF8, TIFF 16 either but the result is the same.

151-160 flat 2 denoised Topaz cropped.jpg

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I can’t spot any relevant difference between the afphoto file and the uploaded image file, neither visually nor numerically (pasting in the jpg, using blend mode difference and a levels adjustment with white level 4%. 
The adjustments you added all reduce the visibility of the tail, it becomes so dark that it becomes very difficult to see in all versions.

 

 

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Left afphoto, right jpg. Both boosted 10x in brightness.

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Thanks to all for looking into.

The situation seems to be similar to that in my other issue: It depends on the viewer. When opening both images in AP they look identically. However in the viewer of Directory Opus it's a bit different, darker and the tail shorter and more narrow. I attach a screenshot, left AP, right Directory Opus. In Irfan View it's the same.

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Well, some viewers don’t handle color profiles correctly. There is nothing what Affinity can do to fix bugs in other vendors (or free) software.

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There is nothing what Affinity can do to fix bugs in other vendors (or free) software.

"Not my business" - that's poor support.

Take a look at the thread I referenced in my initial posting. The support of Photomatix was excellent. They didn't write "not my business" although the issue was not located in Photomatix. Instead they analyzed the issue carefully, analyzed my images and even used Affinity Photo. That's support how it should be.

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To avoid any misunderstanding: I’m not speaking for Serif/Affinity. Just a regular user. So stepping out of this thread and leave it to @stokerg to answer.

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There is a new aspect regarding this issue:

When preparing another image, the issue is visible more clearly and even in Affinity Photo itself, take a look at the attachment. Left is the image in AP. I exported it in TIFF format and loaded it into AP either to the right side. The stars in the export are not as bright as in the original.

Is there a handling error on my side? IMO the export is independent of layers being selected and should include all adjustments being active.

Original AP file here:
https://ulrichbangert.de/div/affinity/P1201981.afphoto

affinity-moon-plejades.png

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the differences are only visible when zoomed out (40% in my case when showing the complete image).

You must zoom to exactly 100% to compare images. Otherwise mipmap rendering and alias settings will cause rendering artefacts especially for small details like stars.

Small details are exaggerated when zoomed out. This affects starts in your case, or any added noise or sharpening.

When you zoom to 100%, both images are rendered identically. 

 

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Update:
In the meantime it came across my mind that this issue might be caused by the color profile and this assumption turned out to be true: When I select the profile "sRGB IEC 61966-2.1" when exporting, there is no difference in the lightness.

Best regards, Ulrich

2024-02-08 Cyclamen coum Porcelain 02 Stacked srgb iec61977-2.1.jpg

2024-02-08 Cyclamen coum Porcelain 02 Stacked.jpg

The difference is visible clearly when loading both images in AP and switching the tabs.

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