Object changes colour

[jackamus]

I have an grouped object that is filled with orange. When I move it back to the bottom layer it changes to yellow. Why?

[kaffeeundsalz]

Maybe you have other layers above the object whose blend modes interfere with the orange color. Without knowing how your document is composed, it's hard to tell.

[Callum]

Hi Jackamus,

As Kaffeundsalz has stated we would likely need a copy of the file to tell you why this is occurring. Please could you provide a copy of it?

Thanks
C

[jackamus]

I have attached the file.

The Yellow object changes to orange when raised to the top layers.

Change colour.afdesign

[walt.farrell]

8 minutes ago, jackamus said:

The Yellow object changes to orange when raised to the top layers.

The Levels Adjustment above it is causing the orange objects to appear yellow, and they revert to their correct appearance when moved above the Levels Adjustment layer:

You'll see the same behavior if you simply hide that Adjustment.

By the way, your file is overly complex. You have an empty group showing just below that Adjustment. And the Group below that one contains another Group that contains a single layer. Why have the multiple nested levels of grouping?

[jackamus]

Thanks Walt.

The reason why it looks complicated is because I just selected this particular group of object from a another file that had many more objects. I saw no point in sending the whole file - just enough to show the problem.

On checking the original file the Adjustment layer was for a jpeg image which I no longer needed and hid.

Effectively you are saying that if an adjustment layer is added then it will affect all the other layer beneath it rather than just the layer that it is applied to?

Another aspect of this is the way I use AD. If I were to use it in the correct manner I would be spending more time organizing layers than actually doing the work. I use AD in a way that gets me the result I need rather than slavishly obey all the rules - hence the comment in my signature!

I will use this file to illustrate, in another thread, my long standing concern and complaint about bounding box handles disappearing when moving a guide.

 

[walt.farrell]

6 minutes ago, jackamus said:

Effectively you are saying that if an adjustment layer is added then it will affect all the other layer beneath it rather than just the layer that it is applied to?

To apply an adjustment layer "to" a layer, you nest it within that layer. If the adjustment is not nested within a layer (and not within a Group), it applies to everything below it.

 

8 minutes ago, jackamus said:

I use AD in a way that gets me the result I need rather than slavishly obey all the rules - hence the comment in my signature!

And, hence, the odd results that you get in this case.

[jackamus]

4 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

To apply an adjustment layer "to" a layer, you nest it within that layer. If the adjustment is not nested within a layer (and not within a Group), it applies to everything below it.

 

And, hence, the odd results that you get in this case.

Well of course and that is why the forum is so helpful.

If you are now going to say, "Then why should we help you when you do not use AD in the orthodox manner", I have no defense.

I never had this problem prior to AD when I used 'Page Plus' which I still say, from my perspective, was a better app because it had more technical drawing features.

[R C-R]

5 hours ago, jackamus said:

Effectively you are saying that if an adjustment layer is added then it will affect all the other layer beneath it rather than just the layer that it is applied to?

As Walt said, to avoid that nest the adjustment layer in whatever it is you want it to apply to. It has always been this way in every version of every Affinity app. It also applies to mask, FX, & live filter layers.

So if you want to think of it that way, It is (& always has been) the usual "orthodox" way for controlling how applying layers will affect other layers.

[kaffeeundsalz]

17 hours ago, jackamus said:

I never had this problem prior to AD when I used 'Page Plus' which I still say, from my perspective, was a better app because it had more technical drawing features.

I never used the Plus apps, but from what I understand, many UI/UX details are fundamentally different in the Affinity suite. It's reasonable to assume that layer nesting either didn't exist in Page Plus or that it just didn't behave the same way. You unfortunately have no choice other than getting used to it. However, the general availabilty of features is a different matter in my opinion. Serif have started from scratch with Affinity, so it was clear that the apps wouldn't be feature-complete in the sense that they'd not offer the same functionality than the old Plus range from the beginning. Much of what was missing has already been added through updates. Technical drawing features were not, obviously, but just like you, I'd be very happy if they'd get implemented one day. Fingers crossed 😉

[jackamus]

I've been using AD since it was first published and hoped that the same technical drawing features as the old PagePlus had would eventually be added but this hasn't happened. So reluctantly I will looking for another vector app that does have these features to replace AD V2.