Jon Davies Posted August 31, 2023 Share Posted August 31, 2023 Hi, I'm using Publisher 2 on two computers and I'm finding on some documents when I create on one PC then open later on the other that the text has moved vertically within the text box. I've checked baseline positioning in the character panel on both PCs and both are set to 0 - although I can correct for the issue by changing this value. Is there anything else that could be causing this? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff NathanC Posted August 31, 2023 Staff Share Posted August 31, 2023 Hi @Jon Davies, Could you perhaps provide a screenshot showing the text frame's vertical position changing on the two different devices for comparison? Although unlikely, could it be a missing font on one of the devices? If you could also provide the document in question (or a small sample from it) that would also help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Davies Posted August 31, 2023 Author Share Posted August 31, 2023 13 minutes ago, NathanC said: Hi @Jon Davies, Could you perhaps provide a screenshot showing the text frame's vertical position changing on the two different devices for comparison? Although unlikely, could it be a missing font on one of the devices? If you could also provide the document in question (or a small sample from it) that would also help. Will do, thanks Nathan - the two PCs are on different sites so may be a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Davies Posted September 4, 2023 Author Share Posted September 4, 2023 On 8/31/2023 at 1:40 PM, NathanC said: Hi @Jon Davies, Could you perhaps provide a screenshot showing the text frame's vertical position changing on the two different devices for comparison? Although unlikely, could it be a missing font on one of the devices? If you could also provide the document in question (or a small sample from it) that would also help. Hi @NathanC two screengrabs attached and the file in question, although the difference is visible on all files. Font is Huntress, installed on both. You'll see that the text sits higher in the text box on the laptop compared to the pc. Thanks for your help. advert-images-a.afpub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted September 4, 2023 Share Posted September 4, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jon Davies said: Font is Huntress, installed on both. It's same font version? Edit: I would try clearing the font cache. Edited September 4, 2023 by Pšenda Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenmcd Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 Cannot see in the screenshot, but the one that is low looks like Vertical Alignment is set to Center Vertically, rather than Top Align. Are these both on the same operating system? Because the vertical metrics are different in that font depending on the OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Davies Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 8 hours ago, Pšenda said: It's same font version? Edit: I would try clearing the font cache. Yes, same version installed from same file. I'll look at how to clear the font cache, not done that before. Thanks. Pšenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Davies Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 2 hours ago, kenmcd said: Cannot see in the screenshot, but the one that is low looks like Vertical Alignment is set to Center Vertically, rather than Top Align. Are these both on the same operating system? Because the vertical metrics are different in that font depending on the OS. Yes, it does look like vertical alignment, but they are both set the same - attached the one that looks central showing top alignment. Both computers are running latest version of Windows 11. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 I think it still has to do with the baselinegrid. There are 2 settings for this that seem to influence each other, see video: 2023-09-05 08-57-28.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Jon Davies said: but they are both set the same Isn't it the same file? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Davies Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pšenda said: Isn't it the same file? Yes, same file and same settings but the text is in a different position on different PCs. When I say "they are both set the same" I was referring to the VA on the two PCs both being set to top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Jon Davies said: same file and same settings Just a note (I am unable to open V2): In one of your screenshots the horizontal character width is set to 99%, in the 'offset' version it's 100%. And, just in case, is there any hidden special character in front of the first word "Mucky" in this frame? Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Jon Davies said: Yes, same file and same settings When it comes to displaying the same file, the "different" baseline or vertical alignment setting is irrelevant, because they are of course the same/identical. Edit: your file in my Win11. Edited September 5, 2023 by Pšenda Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Davies Posted September 5, 2023 Author Share Posted September 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, thomaso said: Just a note (I am unable to open V2): In one of your screenshots the horizontal character width is set to 99%, in the 'offset' version it's 100%. And, just in case, is there any hidden special character in front of the first word "Mucky" in this frame? Yes, I spotted that and corrected to 100%, no difference to vertical alignment. No special character in front of "Mucky". Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted September 5, 2023 Share Posted September 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, thomaso said: Just a note (I am unable to open V2): In one of your screenshots the horizontal character width is set to 99%, in the 'offset' version it's 100%. I have 100% and no offset - 99 vs 100 so it looks like some kind of display/rounding problem. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.5.2636 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.4317. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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