Gerard Moeres Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Until now, the content on pages was not deleted when applying another master page if desired by selecting "migrate". Now it seems that "empty" is applied automatically. This means that the programme can only be used to a very limited extent in my way of working. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I suggest to be more specific concerning "now". What has changed before "now", either in your operating system and app version or in your handling / workflow? Does "empty" get selected automatically or does it get executed even if you have "migrate" selected? Can you upload a screencast demonstrating the procedure? Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oufti Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Here are the rules followed to migrate a content: https://affinity.help/publisher/fr.lproj/pages/Pages/migrateMasterPages.html Perhaps have you locked a layer or its parent layer? Or renamed some layer? Quote Affinity Suite 2.5 – Monterey 12.7.5 – MacBookPro 14" 2021 M1 Pro 16Go/1To I apologise for any approximations in my English. It is not my mother tongue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeTO Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 I tried every permutation of applying master pages last week and I found it was all working correctly. Perhaps there's something different about the master page you're applying than you've done before? Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.5 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.5 for macOS Sequoia 15.1, MacBook Pro 14" (M4 Pro) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Moeres Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 Hello Tomaso and everyone else, The whole thing happened sometime after the last update, I don't know exactly when. "Empty" is not selected but applied even though "migrate" is selected. No page is locked, nothing is different than before, and I have used this procedure many times before. The screenshot shows that the setting is as it should be. I have uninstalled the programme and downloaded and installed it again. I tried it with another file with the same result. I downloaded Publisher V1 and tried it: it works as expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Hi @Gerard Moeres, does your layers panel show the Master B master page when you have selected one of the pages after you have applied it to? What is on Master A and Master B? If you have text frames on the master pages are they linked? What should be migrated from the Actual Pages when the Masters are removed and replaced? Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Moeres Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 The following workflow: I need a document with 3 columns of text, but I want to be able to change them individually on each page. So far I have made linked text frames on the first master page and then let the text run into all layout pages. Then I applied the 2nd sample page. This contains the layout, but no text frames. By applying the second master page to the layout pages, the text frames were migrated, i.e. detached from the master page, so that they could be edited individually. Since the last update, this no longer works, the text frames are deleted and no longer migrated. The layout pages show with Master A AND Master B applied Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thomaso Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 22 minutes ago, Gerard Moeres said: Then I applied the 2nd sample page. This contains the layout, but no text frames. Wouldn't it be more efficient to apply the layout-grid master to the text frame master … and apply only the latter to the document pages? 24 minutes ago, Gerard Moeres said: The layout pages show with Master A AND Master B applied Your page panel screenshot shows Master A applied twice to the right page. – For what purpose? Could this cause confusion, for instance with your activated option "replace existing" when applying Master B to the page? I also wonder about the last screenshot because it shows a thumbnail of a "complete" layout – so, what element is missing / got "emptied" after you applied Master B (which contains no text frames itself)? Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Gerard Moeres said: By applying the second master page to the layout pages, the text frames were migrated, i.e. detached from the master page, so that they could be edited individually. Why bother with a Master Page (or pair of them)? If you are wanting to have three text frames on the pages just do so on Actual Pages. They will auto-flow text just the same. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: Why bother with a Master Page (or pair of them)? If you are wanting to have three text frames on the pages just do so on Actual Pages. They will auto-flow text just the same. The disadvantage of that is that if you need to change the size or layout of the frames, you'll have to adjust each page individually, rather than just adjusting the Master Page. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 24 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: The disadvantage of that is that if you need to change the size or layout of the frames, you'll have to adjust each page individually, rather than just adjusting the Master Page. Reread the bit I quoted, @Gerard Moeres is wanting to have the text frames on the Actual Pages, not the Master Pages. walt.farrell 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Moeres Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 and I need to rearrange them on each page individually, and I don't want to do so by accessing the master pages via layers. Since there are many pages and a lot of text I want to fill the frames automatically, which can only be done via master pages. It used to work from the beginning until the last update ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 8 minutes ago, Gerard Moeres said: I want to fill the frames automatically, which can only be done via master pages. Not true, see video 2023-08-30 11-14-14.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Moeres Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 yes, you're right. But now try it with say 3 frames on each page. First example is what I want, 2nd is what you get Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 So why not use the columns for this? 2023-08-30 11-26-25.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Moeres Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 I need to be able to resize each text frame individually Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 In what way? You can adjust the column width separately in the textframe panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Moeres Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 Thank you very much for trying to help me find a workaround. I need to be able to do something like this (just an example): Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 The columns width are per textframe and with some wrapping objects you could achieve that example. So use a combo of wrapping (invisible) objects and columns. 2023-08-30 12-18-22.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerard Moeres Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 thank you again, I think that will have to do until that bug gets fixed ... Return 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Gerard Moeres said: But now try it with say 3 frames on each page. First example is what I want, 2nd is what you get It looks like you did not link the 3 frames together on the Master Page. If you do that, it should work as you want,. Return 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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