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The Apply Master dialog has an option named Migrate but when you use it the alert is named Objects Promoted rather than Objects Migrated. Both terms are equally good but it might be better if the alert's term matched the dialog.

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The same incoherence exists also in French.  

(And since the alert disappeared before I had read it completely, I was still wondering what was this "Objet promu" relating…)

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59 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

The Apply Master dialog has an option named Migrate but when you use it the alert is named Objects Promoted rather than Objects Migrated. Both terms are equally good but it might be better if the alert's term matched the dialog.

Migration and Promotion are related, but are different functions.

When you choose to Migrate while applying a new Master, Publisher uses a set of rules to determine which frames of the new Master get which content from the old Master frames. 

During Migration, if Publisher can't figure out which new frame to use for some old page content, it will still migrate that content, but it will ignore the new Master frames and Promote the old content to a new non-Master frame directly on the document page.

https://affinity.help/publisher2/en-US.lproj/pages/Pages/migrateMasterPages.html

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1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

Migration and Promotion are related, but are different functions.

When you choose to Migrate while applying a new Master, Publisher uses a set of rules to determine which frames of the new Master get which content from the old Master frames. 

During Migration, if Publisher can't figure out which new frame to use for some old page content, it will still migrate that content, but it will ignore the new Master frames and Promote the old content to a new non-Master frame directly on the document page.

https://affinity.help/publisher2/en-US.lproj/pages/Pages/migrateMasterPages.html

Okay, I get it now but I think the help page needs to be updated because it refers to this as conversion and not as promotion.

Also the help page says this is just for text frames and picture frames but it's also for art text and path text since they're containers that can be customized on a document page.

Thanks

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Also, this statement could stand to be clarified:

  • It ignores frames whose layers are locked or have a parent layer that is locked. So, if you have fixed text in a logo or footer, it's recommended to lock the corresponding layers on the new master pages to prevent them being considered

I thought it meant I had to lock the layer on the old master page to prevent its content from being migrated.

 

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4 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

During Migration, if Publisher can't figure out which new frame to use for some old page content, it will still migrate that content, but it will ignore the new Master frames and Promote the old content to a new non-Master frame directly on the document page.

https://affinity.help/publisher2/en-US.lproj/pages/Pages/migrateMasterPages.html

Thank you. I presume you are referring to this in particular: 

  • If there aren't enough frames on the new master to transfer everything, any frames from the old master that can't be matched are converted to page content.

Sadly, never on this help page I saw the word Promote (neither on the French page)… 

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14 hours ago, Oufti said:

Thank you. I presume you are referring to this in particular: 

  • If there aren't enough frames on the new master to transfer everything, any frames from the old master that can't be matched are converted to page content.

Sadly, never on this help page I saw the word Promote (neither on the French page)… 

Yes, that's the section that explains it. I agree that it would be good to have the term Promoted used there, in addition to converted. Perhaps "... converted (promoted) to page content."

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In an attempt to further muddy the waters; Instead of Migrated or Promoted how about Transferred To.

This is as good a place as any to remind people to name each and every layer/item on the Master Pages with sensible unique names. Left Page Number, Left Page Header, Left Main Text, Middle Picture, Middle Picture Caption, Background Picture, etc. Use the exact same names on the various Master Pages as applicable.

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