Showing Endnotes in Table of Contents

[Robert Gibson PWES]

Hi Guys!

I'm laying out a book for one of my clients where in his original document the Endnotes are shown in the Table of Contents. Using v2 Endnotes in the Notes window, I used Heading 1 as the Title Style.

 

I created the Endnotes and then dragged the pages into the correct position in the document, as the reference document has other headings after Endnotes. I'm trying to get the Endnotes title to show up in the TOC but for some reason it isn't showing up (Should be after Recommendations) I am unable to manipulate the title except through the Title Style in the Notes window, but even although it's set at Heading 1 the ToC doesn't recognize it.

 

I've attached the Publisher file for context. 

What am I missing?  Thanks!

Godly Husband BKP.afpub

[Oufti]

2 hours ago, Robert Gibson PWES said:

I'm trying to get the Endnotes title to show up in the TOC but for some reason it isn't showing up (Should be after Recommendations) I am unable to manipulate the title except through the Title Style in the Notes window, but even although it's set at Heading 1 the ToC doesn't recognize it.

I could reproduce this problem in a simplified file. 

The problem seems to be that if selecting a Title style in the Notes window results in Endnotes title to be well named and formatted, the style itself fails apparently to stick to the paragraph.

I mean: when we go as close as possible in selecting the Endnotes title, i.e. placing the cursor at the right of it, before the end of paragraph pilcrow (¶), the style mentioned is the note's body style, not the chosen title style… Changing there the paragraph style is not possible, as this affects the first note.

Since the Heading style is not applied, the paragraph can't be included in the TOC. 

 

— A workaround could be to pin at the beginning of the notes a frame with no wrap containing a dummy Endnotes title, set with the Heading 1 style but with no fill colour for characters. So this title will appear in the TOC and not on the page. But that's a pretty dirty job IMHO…

Include endnotes in TOC.afpub

[Robert Gibson PWES]

Thanks for the suggestion, @Oufti!  And the simplified file to illustrate. Yes I used the suggestion and created a dummy Artistic text frame with the Heading 1 applied, which allows the entry in the ToC, and then turned the Visibility off to hide it.

[Oufti]

1 hour ago, Robert Gibson PWES said:

[…] and then turned the Visibility off to hide it.

👍 Much easier and neater than the no fill option I used! 

[MikeTO]

13 hours ago, Oufti said:

The problem seems to be that if selecting a Title style in the Notes window results in Endnotes title to be well named and formatted, the style itself fails apparently to stick to the paragraph.

I believe this is by design because Publisher doesn't allow you to edit or format the Endnotes Title field in the main window. You can format it only with the Notes panel:

@Robert Gibson PWES I think this is a bug that hasn't been previously reported so I'll report it in the bugs forum. There's no reason Endnotes shouldn't appear in the TOC and it's something publishers should have the option of doing. It's a field formatted as Heading 2 and if you inserted another field into a Heading 2 paragraph, such as page number of Created Date, the field value would appear correctly in the TOC. This is probably just an oversight in a very new feature. If the issue is changed in a future update and somebody didn't want the Endnotes Title field to appear in the TOC, they could just use a different text style.

In the meantime, the workaround that @Oufti suggested is great. Just keep in mind that would have to delete that pinned frame if Serif fixes this issue in a future update or else you'd have two Endnotes titles appearing in your TOC.

[Callum]

I have now logged this with our developers to be fixed in a future update  

Thanks
C

[Robert Gibson PWES]

42 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

I believe this is by design because Publisher doesn't allow you to edit or format the Endnotes Title field in the main window. You can format it only with the Notes panel:

Yeah I noticed that I couldn't do anything outside of the Notes panel

@Robert Gibson PWES I think this is a bug that hasn't been previously reported so I'll report it in the bugs forum. There's no reason Endnotes shouldn't appear in the TOC and it's something publishers should have the option of doing. 

Thanks for that and I'll be looking for it to be changed in a subsequent update!

In the meantime, the workaround that @Oufti suggested is great. Just keep in mind that would have to delete that pinned frame if Serif fixes this issue in a future update or else you'd have two Endnotes titles appearing in your TOC.

Roger that!

 

[Robert Gibson PWES]

29 minutes ago, Callum said:

I have now logged this with our developers to be fixed in a future update  

Thanks
C

Thank you for that!

[Affinity Info Bot]

The issue "Endnotes title not included in TOC" (REF: AFB-8185) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.2.0.1971".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

[Robert Gibson PWES]

 

1 hour ago, Serif Info Bot said:

The issue "Endnotes title not included in TOC" (REF: AFB-8185) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.2.0.1971".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

Thank you so much! Will do re: instructions 

[Oufti]

On 8/9/2023 at 4:48 PM, Robert Gibson PWES said:

On 8/9/2023 at 4:05 PM, MikeTO said:

In the meantime, the workaround that @Oufti suggested is great. Just keep in mind that would have to delete that pinned frame if Serif fixes this issue in a future update or else you'd have two Endnotes titles appearing in your TOC.

Roger that!

@Robert Gibson PWES  Bumped this just to remind it to your attention. 

[Robert Gibson PWES]

1 minute ago, Oufti said:

@Robert Gibson PWES  Bumped this just to remind it to your attention. 

Thanks for the reminder!