Table of contents with multiple entries

[five3141two]

Hi everyone,

Maybe one of you can help me.
I have a master page called "Chapter", in which a text frame is positioned on the left and right side. The field "Section Name" is inserted in both text frames. It is formatted with a text style "Chapter". The table of contents is created on the basis of this text style "Chapter".
If I now start a new chapter in the text, I drag the master page "Chapter" onto the page, insert a new section with the chapter name from this page. This automatically names the chapter. Likewise, the field "Section Name" appears in the left header of all pages. The master page is therefore two-sided, as the page numbering in the header is then positioned correctly (on the outside of the page).  If I make an explicit master for the beginning of the chapter on a left and a right page, I have to reformat each time pages are added.

So far so good. Everything works fine, but: When I now create a table of contents, the chapters are listed on two pages each. 

My guess: the master page "Chapters" contains the text frames of both pages in the background layers. This means that the field "Section Name" is also present on the left and right. In fact, only the page that is to be displayed is visible.

At the moment, I insert the "Section Name" field manually after the master page has been assigned. This means that the field is actually only included on the desired pages and is also displayed correctly in the table of contents.

Is this a mistake or have I overlooked something? Thanks for the help.

I added an afpub-file, which shows my problem- just in case ...

example-ToC.afpub

[MikeTO]

Yes, that's exactly what is happening and I believe Serif would say it's as designed, although I know the isn't working for you. It can be verified by expanding the master group in the Layers panel - you'll see "Frame Chapter Title - r" there and when you select it the frame will show as selected on the right page even though this master isn't applied to the right page.

The rule in Publisher is to never apply a facing-pages master to a single page of a spread. It happens automatically with page 1, the objects on the left side of the master exist to the left of page 1, but never do it anywhere else or problems like this will occur.

This isn't a big deal because you can just create a master for the first two pages of a chapter and apply that to the entire spread. If sometimes you need to start a chapter on the other side of the page create the opposite version of the master.

Good luck!

[Old Bruce]

@five3141two

I guess you could do it this way with Section Names from the Section Manager for the ToC. I prefer to use text in the text. Generally speaking "Chapter One" will actually be in the text and I use a Paragraph Style (say "Chapter Name") for that and choose that Paragraph Style for the ToC.

The way you have it set up you could use two Paragraph Styles as I have in the revised document, you'll have to go through and manually apply the Heading 1 for ToC paragraph style to the heading in the Actual Pages.* No real saving of time. The other way you could use your method involves going to the various Actual Pages and Edit Detached the Master Page Chapter and delete the the invisible text frame that has the Section name in it.**

In my opinion I think that your method is going to cause no end of headaches.

* this example

example-ToC Bruce.afpub

** the second example

example-ToC Bruce 02.afpub

[five3141two]

Thanks guys for your instant reply. It is really great to have this forum and exchange ...

Sometimes too much automatisation isn't always the best way to do things. 

so my conclusions are:

• My idea with the prepared masters works fine when not used for entries in the ToC.
• And I have to type the chapters name again in the chapter title or put in the field manually.

@MikeTO: I think it is less work as I mentioned now than working with two masters - tried it and it led me to the »solution« with the field »section name«.

At least my assumption was confirmed.