Aligning footnote numbers to the right side

[PavolSK]

Hi, is there a way to align the footnote numbers to the right side? For example if I have the footnotes 9 and 10, I want the 9 to be in alignmentwith the 0.

[thomaso]

Not sure about footnotes and your text style … but usually you can use a right aligned tab before the text to align it this way.

[walt.farrell]

16 minutes ago, thomaso said:

but usually you can use a right aligned tab before the text to align it this way.

If that worked it would be nice. On my iPad it doesn't work, as there's no way to add a tab stop before the footnote number.

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

there's no way to add a tab stop before the footnote number.

Oh, that's a pity. I am not familiar with V2's footnote feature, according to the Help its interface seems to work similar to the List feature …

… where I may add a tab before the list but without a chance to set its alignment, while the right align button appears to have no effect and an additionally manually set right aligned tab appears to be ignored (regardless of its horizontal position).

[walt.farrell]

I need to check what happens on the desktop, @thomaso. But that's not the right field. It needs to be field for "in the footnote", not "in the text".

 On the iPad, where I could test last night, I could not make it work.

[thomaso]

56 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

It needs to be field for "in the footnote", not "in the text".

From the Help screenshots both platforms use "Numbers" and "Format" as options within "Footnote". While in the desktop help "text" is within "Format" and defines the visual style of the numbers, afaik. – However, I am curious what you will experience … and possibly report.

[Oufti]

I use two tabs, one set right before the number and one set left after. 

I define the "Notes body" paragraph text style accordingly. 

[thomaso]

@Oufti, yes, this is what I had in mind in my initial post. – Do I understand right that a tab added in the Notes panel can get styled as right-aligned via the Paragraph style? Now I wonder if in V2 it also works for tabs added in Bullets & Numbering (which seem in V1 unable to get right-aligned).

[walt.farrell]

On 7/28/2023 at 9:45 AM, thomaso said:

this is what I had in mind in my initial post.

And what I could not get to work on the iPad. I will post a bug report if I can still reproduce the problem.

Edit: Works in 2.2.0.1903; fails in 2.1.1. Bug reported:

Edited August 1, 2023 by walt.farrell
Link to bug report

[PavolSK]

1 hour ago, Oufti said:

I use two tabs, one set right before the number and one set left after. 

I define the "Notes body" paragraph text style accordingly. 

Thank you, this one worked on my windows desktop.

[Oufti]

2 hours ago, thomaso said:

Do I understand right that a tab added in the Notes panel can get styled as right-aligned via the Paragraph style?

In short, yes.

A tab added is only a character in itself ; its alignment depends on the paragraph (or paragraph style) setting(s). 

Therefore, as shown above you have to:
1° Check in the Notes panel the style chosen for the body of the note. (Cf. bottom of the red circled part of the screen capture above, partly obscured by the dropdown menu.) If needed, you will create a dedicated paragraph style.

2° Modify the Paragraph style definition to include a right-aligned tab stop (circled in green above). This means, for example, adding the tab and clicking the update style button in the contextual tool bar. 

[Oufti]

2 hours ago, thomaso said:

Now I wonder if in V2 it also works for tabs added in Bullets & Numbering (which seem in V1 unable to get right-aligned).

Yes and no, for what I found so far… 

Please, have a look at this (poor) video. I hope it will at least give you an idea how things present themselves in V2. Perhaps, you'll have a better idea…

 

 

I tried to do the same thing I did with the Notes, but as it is not presented the same way I had to fiddle to find a semi satisfactory way of doing…

You can observe on timecode 30" that I achieved a right aligned list numbering, by zeroing the tab stop in the Bullet setting.

Good! But… then I cannot adjust the second tab (normally shifting the text).

It looks like tab settings in the Bullet section and tabs stops set in the Tabulation section were conflicting, but I don't understand how they interact. (I think in fact I don't understand what the Bullet tab serves to, nor its alignment icon which seems to have no effect…?)

I could probably elaborate on it later, if you want it.

[Oufti]

3 hours ago, Oufti said:

I achieved a right aligned list numbering, by zeroing the tab stop in the Bullet setting.

Good! But… then I cannot adjust the second tab (normally shifting the text).

I finally got it right:

But I don't know how! 🤭 

(Compared to the video settings (in the middle), I changed the tab alignment button in the Bullet section and removed a space after the \#, but none of these seems to matter here.)

 

[thomaso]

41 minutes ago, Oufti said:

I achieved a right aligned list numbering, by zeroing the tab stop in the Bullet setting.

Ah, good catch! … and odd, too. – With list tabstop = 0 it appears easy to adjust the tabs visually in the ruler (apart from logic):

… while I still don't get the use of the three text align icons/buttons.

[Oufti]

2 hours ago, thomaso said:

With list tabstop = 0 it appears easy to adjust the tabs visually in the ruler (apart from logic)

Yes, it is. I don't know why it was inefficient during my first tests. 

 

2 hours ago, thomaso said:

I still don't get the use of the three text align icons/buttons.

Neither me.

I have tested different things without finding any visible effect: bullets or numbering, adding some text at the beginning of the line, with or without a List tab stop, …