Adjusting text so that its bottom line is at the bottom border of the text box

[Rojarosguitar]

Hello, I'm totally new to Publisher and to desktop publishing. I'm trying to finish a book and all in all I'm quite content. (I'm on iMac MacOS 13.2.1 and Publisher 2 (test version).

The issue I couldn't solve yet is how to adjust the text spacing so that the last line on the page is same place on each page and at the bottom line of the text box, just like the first line is always at the top border of the text board.

I still hope there is some automatic process to achieve that...

 

Sorry if my question is a bit stupid or if I use wrong terms; still hope you can understand what I want to achieve...

 

best regards

[walt.farrell]

I'm not sure that can always be accomplished automatically, but perhaps you're looking for Justify Vertically?

[Oufti]

Baseline grid (for the text frame or the whole page) could also be worth considering:

https://affinity.help/publisher/en-US.lproj/index.html?page=pages/DesignAids/baselineGrids.html?title=Baseline grids

 

[walt.farrell]

5 minutes ago, Oufti said:

Baseline grid (for the text frame or the whole page) could also be worth considering:

Perhaps, but I think that can only ensure that the last line is at the same spot on all pages if each page happens to contain the same amount of text. It may play into the use of vertical justification as a component of the solution, though, so thanks for the suggestion.

[Rojarosguitar]

Thanks so far for the advices, which I'll try out. Is 'Justify vertically' something that is to be applied on the master page or on individual pages?

[Old Bruce]

2 minutes ago, Rojarosguitar said:

Thanks so far for the advices, which I'll try out. Is 'Justify vertically' something that is to be applied on the master page or on individual pages?

It is a Frame Text Text Frame attribute. So I guess you would set it for the Text Frames on the Master Pages.

[Rojarosguitar]

2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

I'm not sure that can always be accomplished automatically, but perhaps you're looking for Justify Vertically?

Thanks, that works perfectly for me... magic! The only thing I#d wish for would be to mark all pages and apply it globally. That doesn't seem to work.

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, Rojarosguitar said:

That doesn't seem to work.

If you want it to apply to all the Text Frames, Select > Select Object > Frame Text from the menu and then set it.

[Rojarosguitar]

Thanks, that was easy! Many thanks for the quick help, everybody!

Edited July 11, 2023 by Rojarosguitar

[Oufti]

Most important thing is that you are satisfied. I would though explain a little further what I had in mind above…

9 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

[Baseline grid] can only ensure that the last line is at the same spot on all pages if each page happens to contain the same amount of text.

 

Indeed, Baseline grid is not the panacea for having the last line aligned on each page. It implies at least that the length of text (number of lines) is similar on each page. 

Its main advantage is more that all lines between pages are aligned (at least if their style forces them to align on the baseline, as it could be deactivated for example for Notes or Title styles), which seems to me preferable for a book — because of the relative transparency of the paper, text is more legible if lines are aligned on the two sides of the sheet of paper as it ensures a better contrast. 

Compare these three double pages examples : 

1. Using a grid — All lines are aligned across pages, including the first and last line of each page.
   An extra 6 pt is added under the Titles, normally linespaced of 24 pt, so that they occupy 2 lines of 15 pt. 
2. With no grid — Each paragraph style has its line spacing respected but as 24 pts and 15 pts are not multiples, alignment is shifted as soon as there is a Title.
3. (a & b.) Same paragraphs styles on different pages are not linespaced evenly from a page to the other, but first and last lines are well aligned. 

Depending on the situation, one solution offers advantages or not. 
From my view of typographer, I prefer books with a page one line short than irregular line spacings… 

 

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Edited July 12, 2023 by Oufti

[Rojarosguitar]

Thanks... I'll consider it with any of my new projects...