cc7 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Using Eyedropper tool in any color windows now using too many steps. Why not just click on the color and click again to the color on the desired spot? But now you have to click and hold and drag to the desired point. For what?! Think about holding down and dragging it to the bottom left corner of your monitor screen. I use a mouse and my fingers get tired in this way. Please remove it. Make it easy to use. Thank you. slowkow 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Perhaps the Color Picker Tool would be more appropriate for the way you want to work, than the color samplers in the panels? PaulEC 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 10 minutes ago, Red Sands said: There is no reason why you should drag with the mouse button pressed. There are at least two. It enables sampling from outside the application window. And within the application window, it enables sampling from the application UI, without causing unintended actions. Edit: For a 3rd, it allows sampling from a different document in a Floated window, without switching to that document. PaulEC, Pšenda, cc7 and 1 other 4 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc7 Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 1:54 AM, walt.farrell said: There are at least two. It enables sampling from outside the application window. And within the application window, it enables sampling from the application UI, without causing unintended actions. Edit: For a 3rd, it allows sampling from a different document in a Floated window, without switching to that document. Maybe It should have disable this option. I have never dragged and hold it to absorb the color outside the application. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/7/2023 at 4:10 PM, cc7 said: Why not just click on the color and click again to the color on the desired spot? At the moment, the user drags from the well to sample the colour and, once a colour has been sampled, they can then click the well to apply the sampled colour. If, on the other hand, as you suggest, the user clicked the well to activate the eyedropper functionality and then clicked somewhere else to sample the colour, rather than dragging from the well, how would the user then apply the sampled colour? (Clicking the well would already be ‘taken’ by the activation process.) 6 hours ago, cc7 said: Maybe It should have disable this option. I have never dragged and hold it to absorb the color outside the application. Are you saying that other people should not be able to use this part of the functionality simply because you have never used it? cc7 and PaulEC 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gripsholm Lion Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Just to be clear, I'm not about to support this suggestion if it would cause new problems, but... I find that the need to drag the pipette* around means that the ability to sample externally has very limited utility because I cannot find a way to get the pointer to anywhere useful. Dragging prevents or interferes with a lot of navigational actions, including: triggering a hot corner (cannot trigger it); swiping between desktop workspaces (the sampler is lost); pressing the mission control key (ditto); and keyboard shortcuts. So it seems that to sample from another window, I have to do some prep: move Affinity out of fullscreen, ensure that the target window is in the same workspace, and place it in a reachable position. What a faff. So if the target is not an Affinity-compatible file, I use one of the many third-party colour tools for MacOS which do not require dragging and therefore give their sampler easy access to any window or workspace. I venture to suggest that as a workaround. *Which, incidentally, looks more like a chicken drumstick in the 2.x redesign. cc7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cc7 Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 hours ago, GarryP said: At the moment, the user drags from the well to sample the colour and, once a colour has been sampled, they can then click the well to apply the sampled colour. If, on the other hand, as you suggest, the user clicked the well to activate the eyedropper functionality and then clicked somewhere else to sample the colour, rather than dragging from the well, how would the user then apply the sampled colour? (Clicking the well would already be ‘taken’ by the activation process.) Are you saying that other people should not be able to use this part of the functionality simply because you have never used it? I mean Affinity Photo should have option for disable this function for user who don't need it. In my opinion... Click and hold the mouse button and drag. It's a very tiring and not good method. If you want to press and hold and tap on the color. Why not change the method to press and hold a key on the keyboard instead, for example hold down the Alt key and just click on the color you want. It's like the Photoshop method, much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 12 minutes ago, cc7 said: I mean Affinity Photo should have option for disable this function for user who don't need it. Since there are various “functions” being discussed here, it’s probably better if you specify which one you mean. Which specific function is it that you think users should be able to disable? 12 minutes ago, cc7 said: Click and hold the mouse button and drag. It's a very tiring and not good method. Why is dragging to pick a colour “tiring”? There are lots of other things that you need to use a drag motion with in the Affinity applications – and almost every other non-trivial application which exists. Do you find those things “tiring” also? How often are you picking colours with the eyedropper which makes the process “tiring”? PaulEC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Red Sands said: It's this drag and hold or the Windows shortcuts with "hold down the left and right mouse button" that are the most strenuous hand manoeuvres I've experienced. And therefore obvious to improve for the benefit of all customers. They shouldn't be so strenuous. For some of us it’s not merely strenuous. On my Windows laptop the LMB and RMB switches are covered by a single strip of hard plastic, so it’s impossible to press both at the same time. Return 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 20 minutes ago, Alfred said: For some of us it’s not merely strenuous. On my Windows laptop the LMB and RMB switches are covered by a single strip of hard plastic, so it’s impossible to press both at the same time. It should have been gone or replaced in version2 Better to learn a new shortkey combo then fiddling around with this. As for the pickers in affinity they could be streamlined into one picker that does all. alt+drag /alt+click to select and ctrl+alt+click to add to document palette and add the same option to apply to selection when chosen on the toolbar. This could be whatever layer selected whether a vector or raster and in any of the tools brush or shape. Adding rightclick in the flow is to set stroke with selected color. cc7 and Alfred 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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