New lines automatically capitalized in Publisher

[KarinC]

Publisher v2.1.1 windows

Even though I have text capitalization checked at 'none' every new line will be capitalized if I use the enter key even though it is not a new sentence. I have to manually change the letter at the beginning of each line to lower case. This happens both with the text frame tool and art text tool.

I'm creating a user manual with dozens of callouts on each page. It takes time to go back and correct each new line to not be capitalized.

[walt.farrell]

6 minutes ago, KarinC said:

Even though I have text capitalization checked at 'none'

This is not related to the Text menu settings at all. It is a result of Auto-Correction settings (Settings, Auto-Correct)

6 minutes ago, KarinC said:

if I use the enter key even though it is not a new sentence.

If you use the Enter key you get a new paragraph, and a new paragraph would start with a new sentence.

Perhaps you want a Line Break rather than a Paragraph Break? Shift+Enter would give you one.

Edit: Or, when it capitalizes the letter, Undo (Cmd/Ctrl+Z) should revert it to what you typed.

[KarinC]

Okay. That worked to deselect in the settings, even if I use a hard 'enter'. I wonder what the 'none' under text/capitalization is for then?

Thank you for the quick reply. It was adding a lot of editing hours.

[walt.farrell]

19 minutes ago, KarinC said:

I wonder what the 'none' under text/capitalization is for then?

The Text > Capitalize menu has multiple functions, but mainly it is used to visually or physically transform text that already exists.

Here's the Help: https://affinity.help/publisher2/en-US.lproj/pages/Text/capitalisation.html

We can discuss more if you have questions after reading that  

 

[KarinC]

In thinking about this, selecting Capitalization under settings should mean that you would get a capital letter at the beginning of a sentence, not at the beginning of a line. There should be a capital letter after a period, not also if using the enter key. While deselecting it solves that problem, I am then left with careful editing to be sure that the first letter of a sentence is capitalized. I would say that it is a very minor bug.

[walt.farrell]

32 minutes ago, KarinC said:

I would say that it is a very minor bug.

Serif can comment about that.

I will go back to my prior statement, that a new paragraph cannot be part of a prior sentence, and therefore must be the start of a new sentence (whether the prior text ended with a period or not). Thus, to me, the current behavior makes perfect sense, and I would not consider it a bug.

[anto]

06.07.2023 о 20:52 KarinC сказав:

I have to manually change the letter at the beginning of each line to lower case.

Use regular expressions to make this process automatic.

Find:

^([ A - Z ]+) 

Replace:

\L$1 

 

[KarinC]

59 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Serif can comment about that.

I will go back to my prior statement, that a new paragraph cannot be part of a prior sentence, and therefore must be the start of a new sentence (whether the prior text ended with a period or not). Thus, to me, the current behavior makes perfect sense, and I would not consider it a bug.

If you are writing paragraphs, perhaps. However, I illustrate scientific/technical papers which have callouts containing one sentence on one or more short lines in order to design the spacing. I have the choice of using default 'Capitalization' then remember to use a soft enter for a new line or not use default Capitalization and remember to check for sentences that do not begin with a capital. If not a bug, it is a small inconvenience. A sentence should begin after a period.

[_Th]

1 hour ago, KarinC said:

I am then left with careful editing to be sure that the first letter of a sentence is capitalized

Careful editing will always be my choice over auto capitalization. Auto capitalization (really, any form of auto correct) often leads to non-highlighted, uncaught errors without good editing. AI-type solutions can help, but if it's remotely important, I want human eyes on my work before it's published.

[Old Bruce]

What _Th has so succinctly said.

[KarinC]

5 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

What _Th has so succinctly said.

Agreed. It is six of one, a half dozen of the other. 

[Old Bruce]

16 minutes ago, KarinC said:

If you are writing paragraphs, perhaps. However, I illustrate scientific/technical papers which have callouts containing one sentence on one or more short lines in order to design the spacing. I have the choice of using default 'Capitalization' then remember to use a soft enter for a new line or not use default Capitalization and remember to check for sentences that do not begin with a capital. If not a bug, it is a small inconvenience. A sentence should begin after a period.

I have the Preferences set to not Otto Korekt™ anything. For Callouts I use either Text Frames with appropriate indents or a Paragraph Style with the appropriate indents and space before & after. Noter that there are no Line Breaks or Paragraphs in the callouts.

Callouts.afpub