settings for color, line spacing.

[crownfield]

they should be persistent, and do not seem to be.

line spacing-multiples.

pick it and use it.

next time it is gone

rgb - cmyk, pick rgb and use it

next time, it is gone.

 

how to make settings like these persistent?

[walt.farrell]

Where are you "picking them" and what do you mean by "the next time"?

[crownfield]

on the upper right, there is line spacing, just before columns. I pick by clicking on it.

I usually want multiples until I change it., and may want pixels. I do not want publisher to change that setting.

and color palette. it keeps changing from rgb to cmyk, which I usually don't want.
I want rgb until I chose to change it.

[crownfield]

I think publisher is helping me. very bad.

line 1

line 2

 

line 3

line 4

 

I want to set the line spacing, using 2 values, that makes the lines space like that.   to do so, I have to set the line spacing at the beginnings of the line. sadly, I can not set the line spacing in this document, like I have been doing all afternoon. not possible. the curser moves through the text, but the box is not selected.

all of a sudden it is, then not, and then it is again. as soon as I try to set line spacing, the box is deselected. you say that makes no sense.

 

I agree.

 

[Brian_J]

1 hour ago, crownfield said:

I want to set the line spacing, using 2 values, that makes the lines space like that.

Are you using Text Styles or the Paragraph panel to style your text?

I don’t understand what you mean by…

2 hours ago, crownfield said:

I have to set the line spacing at the beginnings of the line. sadly, I can not set the line spacing in this document … the curser moves through the text, but the box is not selected.

Can you advise which features/panels you’re using and provide clearer detains about the issue you’re having. A screenshot showing the entire Affinity UI, including the Layers panel and the panel you’re using to style the text would be helpful.

[crownfield]

1-at the top of my screen, upper right, just before  'columns', is line spacing.

I have been using that for weeks now. all of a sudden, I can not set line spacing.

2- I want to set that to give me 'multiples'

3-I do not want to keep selecting "multiples" and then choosing a multiple.

  I want "multiples" to stay selected for the rest of the day, and then in one click, I choose which multiple I want..

 

and, again upper right is color / palates and the menu that lets me choose "RGB"

the problem is that it won't stay chosen, but I have keep selecting menu/RGB over and over and over... you get the idea.

[Oufti]

@crownfield is apparently using the contextual toolbar, which is a simplified way of accessing commands. 

Using the Paragraph and Color lateral panels (menu Window) should give the intended result. 

[Brian_J]

To add to what Oufti mentioned, I use Text Styles in any file that has text. I find it much easier to manage the appearance of text with Text Styles. 

[crownfield]

outfi:

you may be right. I can not tell.

did you mean click on 'window /text?  nothing useful.
did you mean click on text/paragraph styles? I create a new style,  and apply it. nothing happens.

 

I should be able to right click and get a tabbed menu,  character : paragraph : page : document

picking the right menu tab, and choices should be clear, and should always always work.

like line spacing should always work. sadly it does not.

text paragraph styles should always work, but they do not.

[walt.farrell]

14 minutes ago, crownfield said:

I should be able to right click and get a tabbed menu,  character : paragraph : page : document

That's not the way it works.

14 minutes ago, crownfield said:

like line spacing should always work. sadly it does not.

If you set it properly, it will work. It remains unclear to me exactly how you're setting it, and exactly what you're doing after that that isn't working. Some good screenshots, and a sample document, would be useful in helping you. In addition to those, possibly a screen recording.

[crownfield]

and, amazingly, another document lets me change line spacing normally.

so I guess I will copy old files over the new files and reedit them.

what a sad solution.

and I just checked my quick start toolbar and found about 15 programs that are complex programs that do graphical tasks.

not one has an interface like producer.

[walt.farrell]

1 minute ago, crownfield said:

so I guess I will copy old files over the new files and reedit them.

Or, share a misbehaving file, and we'll tell you what's wrong with it.

[crownfield]

and will, sadly no one seems to understand

how I can set line spacing in so many documents, and yet can not in this one.

this is a fatal flaw that I have 10 ways to do something,

and yet I can not find one that is reliable.

that tabbed menu idea could work so very well.

 

[crownfield]

this file is badly broken  from so many attempts to solve the problem,

06-20-23 Jay Ottoway credits.afpub 06-18-23 Frank Whalen open.afpub

[Brian_J]

@crownfield The people who have commented would like to help, but the information you've provided is confusing and vague, and you're not providing the information that people have requested that will enable them to understand the issue.

[walt.farrell]

Thanks for the files. Next, it would help to have a concise description of what the problem is.

If it's the wider spacing that I have highlighted, it's wider there because you have added a Paragraph Break in each of them to make it wider.

Enabling Show Special Characters in the Text Menu would help you see that.

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, crownfield said:

that tabbed menu idea could work so very well.

If you use saved Text Styles via the Text Style Panel – instead of styling selected text snippets individually via the Context Toolbar or the various separate Panels – then you get access to all text properties in 1 window, with its separate sections similar to your wanted "tabs" but in vertical order (from top to bottom). Additionally you have the option to create (= organize) your saved text styles hierarchically and also to use their "Base Style" and "Next Style" options. – However, this workflow is optional, to make use of it is up to you.

[crownfield]

thomaso:

 

if only publisher would do what it says, I would be happy.

in one file, line spacing is active and dynamic. you see it as you select it.

in the other file, it has no effect.

[crownfield]

walt.:

yes, there are. 
but
"in one file, line spacing is active and dynamic. you see it as you select it.

in the other file, it has no effect."

[walt.farrell]

58 minutes ago, crownfield said:

walt.:

yes, there are. 
but
"in one file, line spacing is active and dynamic. you see it as you select it.

in the other file, it has no effect."

Which file?

And, since you are using the Context Toolbar, where is the text cursor when you change the value? The Context Toolbar method only works for the single paragraph the cursor is in, or the paragraphs you have selected within the Text Frame.

That's a large part of why using Text Styles is a much better method.

[thomaso]

2 hours ago, crownfield said:

if only publisher would do what it says, I would be happy.

Regarding line spacing to me it does what it says – but it offers to us users more flexibility than a simple text editor app, not only by various spots in the interface to set a certain property but also several methods to set this property, especially concerning line spacing, that can be influenced by several related settings (e.g. leading override, baseline grid, space before/after, paragraph flow options, text frame alignment, text wrap, pinning).

APub will behave as expected once you have done your setup accordingly and use it accordingly and consequently (without exceptions).

[crownfield]

walt-

look at the image, next to columns. it's line spacing, in pts

and if you put the cursor at beginning of a line, and scroll up and down in the choices of line spacing...

in one file you will see the effect as you do it (wysiwyg)

in the jay file, there was no effect.

if the menu and functions are structured correctly,

no matter how you get there, it behaves in a consistent and orderly fashion.

( it would be nice if it warned you "style conflict: line spacing") or whatever.

and yes, returns, but in another file I took them out and increased the line spacing and got the same effect.

=================

for web pages, html and different browsers may show conflicting properties.

(https://www.wysiwygwebbuilder.com/)

wysiwyg? maybe, maybe not. different battle, more understandable once you understand it.

so many overlapping and conflicting levels of style and formatting.

=================

[Old Bruce]

14 hours ago, crownfield said:

in the jay file, there was no effect.

This is because in the Jay Ottoway file you have a Paragraph Style, Style 2.5 applied to the text. And in that Paragraph Style you have a 71.9 point leading override applied. Set the override to Auto. Also I would work with the Paragraph Style and edit it so the Leading (in the Spacing section) is 60 points or what ever it is you are wanting to have.

[crownfield]

old bruce
that would explain it.
but the style does not show up in the style box, the style box above the sheet, on jay, the problem sheet.

tried a style, but the obvious question is how to EDIT the style. not on the test / style menu.

this is basic, and should be instantly obvious in how to do it.
clearly it is not. create, apply, edit, delete. 

your way, I would set each paragraph to the same style. big space before, smaller space within paragraph.

[crownfield]

21 hours ago, thomaso said:

If you use saved Text Styles via the Text Style Panel – instead of styling selected text snippets individually via the Context Toolbar or the various separate Panels – then you get access to all text properties in 1 window, with its separate sections similar to your wanted "tabs" but in vertical order (from top to bottom). Additionally you have the option to create (= organize) your saved text styles hierarchically and also to use their "Base Style" and "Next Style" options. – However, this workflow is optional, to make use of it is up to you.

but if this works, why does not the 'snippets' work?

all should work, and work consistently.
when snippets are applied, the style goes from no style to style. that I can understand and accept.
I call something like this 'inscrutable ' design.
perhaps the software designer do not speak the same language, or have a poorly designed spec for the UI.
I found the update style, but it is greyed out. so you create a style, and then the choice is delete. no clear edit choice.