Publisher: Adjustment Layer Presets, but no Adjustment panel to use them?

[Cartoonjosh]

Hi, I am using Adjustment Layers in Publisher to treat images. I see each adjustment has an "add preset" button. I added a couple of presets so I could speed up applying them to other images, but I couldn't find a way to retrieve them. I assumed there'd be an Adjustments Panel in Publisher, as there is in Photo, but I can't find it (it's not in the Window menu). Thanks... 

[walt.farrell]

It's only in the Photo Persona, @Cartoonjosh.

[Cartoonjosh]

Thanks @walt.farrell !  It was so close!  

Now, having created a preset I would like to change the adjustment to all pictures where it is applied by simply editing the preset itself. For example, I created a preset to recolour some b/w images and now I'd like to modify that colour a little by editing only the preset in the Adjustment panel. As far as I can tell, it doesn't apply the same recolouring adjustment to all pictures. I guess the way to go is command-select all the Adjustment layers and modify those....

[walt.farrell]

Presets just give you an initial setting for an Adjustment Layer. Changes you make are not synchronized with any other uses of the Preset.

[thomaso]

6 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Presets just give you an initial setting for an Adjustment Layer. Changes you make are not synchronized with any other uses of the Preset.

This makes me wonder if it is possible to use a placed, linked document that contains an adjustment layer only as a synchronizable instance of an adjustment. (as I may create an Asset from an adjustment layer). It seems not to work, the adjustment has no effect on a layer below.

Is there an option / a layer hierarchy or blend mode setting to make such a placed document affect the layers below? (besides features like AD's symbol or APh's linked layers)

[GarryP]

16 hours ago, Cartoonjosh said:

Now, having created a preset I would like to change the adjustment to all pictures where it is applied by simply editing the preset itself.

I think you can do what you want via the Links functionality of the Photo Persona (or just Photo itself).

It takes a while to get used to, and the documentation isn’t great, and there is a small UI ‘glitch’ (where the adjustment layer sometimes ‘jumps’ and it has to be put back where it was), but it should work.

See my quickly-made video for some clues about how to get the basics done.

[Cartoonjosh]

@GaryP you're right, it doesn't look like a feature one would discover intuitively or by chance...   But it's exactly what I was looking for, I'll try it. Thanks for sharing this!

[thomaso]

2 hours ago, GarryP said:

you can do what you want via the Links functionality of the Photo Persona

Since the "Links" feature is meant to work for single pages (canvas) only I would expect a "Symbol" would work across different pages. But apparently it does not with an Adjustment as Symbol, at least not in my V1. – Any idea what prevents this here from working respectively why a second instance of the symbol affects its initial position (instance) only? – Does this work in V2?

 

 

[GarryP]

31 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Since the "Links" feature is meant to work for single pages (canvas)

It does work across multiple pages but the only way I’ve found to do it so far is to link the adjustments on one page and then copy one of the adjustments (or the layer containing the adjustment layer) to other pages and then make changes for size, image, etc. as necessary.

Not ideal but it seems to work – see attached video.

[GarryP]

43 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Any idea what prevents this here from working respectively why a second instance of the symbol affects its initial position (instance) only?

Symbols with an Adjustment as their only layer, in the Designer Persona, don’t seem to be working well for me today.

I created one, and then dragged it out to a spread and that worked (up to a point), but I can’t seem to be able to drag another copy out to the spread, even a spread that doesn’t contain that symbol – see attached video.

Not sure if it's just me doing it wrong.

[thomaso]

17 minutes ago, GarryP said:

then copy one of the adjustments (or the layer containing the adjustment layer) to other pages

Ah, good idea, copy/paste works for Symbols, too: If I copy the initial instance layer + paste it on a different spread then both adjustment symbols work synced as expected. Nevertheless it appears as an odd workflow for both Links and Symbols, compared to the usual use of dragging items from the Symbol panel (whereas the Links panel doesn't seem to offer the feature for different pages but requires the copy/paste workaround).

7 minutes ago, GarryP said:

I can’t seem to be able to drag another copy out to the spread, even a spread that doesn’t contain that symbol

Interesting, to me in V1 it is possible to drag several symbol instances from the panel onto a different page, one or multiple times – while it doesn't matter to have an image selected before dragging: the dragged symbol instance always occurs as a layer of its own, outside of a selected image. But nevertheless they don't work on their pages but affect the page with the initial instance only.

If this dragging option was changed in V2 as improvement "by design" then it appears like a quite confusing decision, it could at least trigger a pop-up message (or beep?) with such an 'impossible' action.

By the way, are you able in V2 to use an adjustment as a placed, linked Affinity document (as mentioned above) … or do you see a way to make its containing adjustment affect the layers below (like e.g. a coloured, semi-transparent object inside a placed .afpub would affect those layers below of course)?

[GarryP]

I tried:

• Creating a new document (with a transparent background, in case it made a difference);
• Adding a Recolour Adjustment to the page;
• Saving the document;
• Creating a new document;
• Adding an image to the first document page;
• Placing (linked) the original document onto the page.

The document is there but it doesn’t do anything that I can see - see attached image.

I’m not entirely sure that Adjustments are supposed to be used that way though.
Might be worth trying to find that out.

[walt.farrell]

1 hour ago, GarryP said:

I’m not entirely sure that Adjustments are supposed to be used that way though.

If I understand what you're trying: Nothing within a Linked or Embedded document has an effect on layers outside that document. As far as the parent documentis concerned, it is (mostly) treated as an image of its contents, unless you use Edit Document to open it separately for editing.