Cropping in Photo shows up in Designer as lines inside the image.

[Louise Cloutier]

I regularly go back and forth between Photo and Designer when working on an image. For example, I often crop or expand an image in Photo, then go back to Designer to adjust the placement of text in the image, based on the new borders. But as of the last update, something *really annoying* is happening.

Here's an example: I cropped an image to make it narrower, and it looks fine in Photo. Then when I open it up in Designer, I see the image in its pre-cropped state, but with two vertical lines along the sides --the two crop lines! I have to use my imagination, instead of my eyes, to continue to work on it.  When I exported the image into a jpg, it displayed correctly. But as long as it was in Designer, it was just wrong! I had to keep exporting it to see it, then edit it some more, back in Designer --rather than seeing it correctly in Designer.

The reverse happened yesterday. I widened another image in Photo, used the smudge tool to spread the background color to the expanded portion. When I opened the file in Designer, it was *three times wider* than what it looked like in Photo! Nothing I could do would make it return to the correct size.

What the heck is going on here?? And how can I fix it?
 

[walt.farrell]

Without screenshots and (ideally) a sample .afphoto document we can't do much except guess.

My guess: after cropping, perhaps you need to Rasterize & Trim, which you can do from the Layers menu, or the Layers panel (right-click) or (I think) right-clicking on the image on the screen.

[Louise Cloutier]

 

I hope this file will demonstrate the problem. When I export it in a smaller file as a jpg, it is correctly cropped and there are no vertical lines. The problem is, I can't see the image as cropped *when looking at it in Designer*. Instead, I see the image with vertical lines that indicate where I cropped it in Photo.
Those vertical lines make it much harder to position the text correctly in Designer.

I don't think this is a question of using some additional features. I've been cropping images this way every single day for the past year, and never encountered this problem, not until the last couple of days. Perhaps it's a feature (bug!) of the updated software.

show crop marks.afdesign

[walt.farrell]

As I suggested above, if you check in Photo, you can see that you have Cropped the image, but you have not finalized the crop by using Rasterize & Trim on it. Here's what I see in Photo on my iPad:

As a Crop is non-destructive in Photo, all the cropped pixels are still there, just hidden. After a Rasterize & Trim, either in Photo or in Designer, you will get what you want. Or, alternatively, in Designer you can use View > View Mode > Clip to Canvas to get what you want, which I will show next: 

 

 

[Louise Cloutier]

This is what I was afraid of --that you wouldn't see the problem I see in Designer. I appreciate the advice about what to do. What I don't understand is why I've *never had to go through those steps before*, in order to see the image correctly in Designer.

This is what I have done, every single day when cropping images.
1- I open the file in Photo.
2- Use the Crop Tool to change the borders
3- click Apply.
4- open the newly cropped image in Designer --NO CROP LINES-- and edit it as I choose.

Unfortunately now, when I open it in Designer --I see crop lines instead of a cropped image.

Are you saying that I now need to take *additional steps* (Rasterize & Trim or View > View Mode > Clip to Canvas) in order to do something that never required those extra steps before?

[Louise Cloutier]

I'm currently running 2.1.1 version of both Designer and Photo. This problem started after I updated to this version.

[walt.farrell]

My guess: you previously had the View Mode (which is remembered) set to Clip to Canvas and at some time changed it. 

But yes, for your workflow, I believe that one of those two is necessary. You may find that setting the View Mode once will handle it, until such time as you change it again.

[Louise Cloutier]

Thanks!
Setting View Mode to "clip to canvas" did indeed fix it, but this continues to be a mystery. I swear, since I started using Designer, I've never touched anything on the View menu there. I only change the size of the display in Photo, and for that, I use the slider in Navigator, in the bottom right corner.

Ahhh, gremlins......

Thanks for helping me solve this. I was getting really tired of having to export the image, every time I make a tiny change in the layout, so I could see what I just did.

[R C-R]

51 minutes ago, Louise Cloutier said:

I swear, since I started using Designer, I've never touched anything on the View menu there.

You may have a keyboard shortcut set to toggle on & off Clip to Canvas -- the default is the \ (backslash) key so you may have hit that by accident.

[Louise Cloutier]

 

23 hours ago, R C-R said:

You may have a keyboard shortcut set to toggle on & off Clip to Canvas -- the default is the \ (backslash) key so you may have hit that by accident.

Thanks!