morabira Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 Not sure how to explain this...Just read here. https://www.logoground.com/discuss.php?topic=5598#45509 Quote
Alfred Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 I imagine that much the easiest way to make sure that each line segment has a different thickness is to keep them as separate objects, but grouped. That will allow you to select and adjust any of them without affecting the others. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
fde101 Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 48 minutes ago, Alfred said: keep them as separate objects The joins may not be clean with that approach... of course, if the change is done at a segment level, there are limits to how effectively that can happen regardless. Most apps set line thickness at the level of specific nodes added for the purpose, or possibly just at the nodes joining the segments. The Affinity apps set it... arbitrarily along its length, totally ignoring the nodes and segments... Aammppaa and Alfred 2 Quote
v_kyr Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 That sample is either way initially created as an outlined vector one ... Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
morabira Posted June 14, 2023 Author Posted June 14, 2023 It should be an additional tool to set from this node to this node, you want this thickness. ...from that node to that node you can set it another line thickness. That is what I'm proposing here. I never find any app has this advantage. I'm not asking how to do that logo here....I'm giving an idea for Affinity designer developer for future development. That is my logo. I designed that logo a long way. Segment by segment where the lines intersecting each other at corners at first. For info, I'm Coreldraw, Affinity Designer, Inkscape and Adobe Illustrator user. Aammppaa and Alfred 2 Quote
Pšenda Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 2 hours ago, morabira said: I never find any app has this advantage The question is - what would it actually be good for, and if it would really be an advantage. If a different thickness could be set for each segment, then why not the color? Why not different line type (nothing, solid, brush, dotted)? Why not different Appearances? Why not different fx? Etc. Having the ability to define "all" line parameters for entire curves or individual segments could be quite a bit of user chaos. And would it really be so convenient and beneficial than to use some alternative solution in some specific cases? Perhaps it would be useful if two different lines/nodes could be linked, so that when the node of one line moves, the node of the second line also moves, so that the impression of a single curve composed of segments with different parameters would be created. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
morabira Posted June 14, 2023 Author Posted June 14, 2023 It can be a very very useful tool..... Let say while the object is still in outline, if we make the corner rounded, the outline transition in thickness will automatically follow nicely. If we are creating a font family, we can automatically get the bold version by just shrinking the shape. https://photos.app.goo.gl/42paF8cXMSik577P6 Alfred 1 Quote
morabira Posted June 14, 2023 Author Posted June 14, 2023 For details, refer the tutorial about make a calligraphy font bold here. Here I use Coreldraw, but still need to make the line segment by segment. It is great if there is a tool that automatically generate the smooth transition like I propose. https://www.designcontest.com/forum/tutorials/26210-corel-graphics-suite-coreldraw-corelphotopaint-tutorials.html/page-2 Alfred 1 Quote
Pšenda Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, morabira said: It is great if there is a tool that automatically generate the smooth transition like I propose. Sorry, but I understood your request "Make it easy to make each line segment has different thickness." completely differently. Different segment thicknesses, not automatic smooth transitions, was what my post was about. Edited June 14, 2023 by Pšenda Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
morabira Posted June 14, 2023 Author Posted June 14, 2023 Affinity have the corner tool right? Combine it with corner tool, we should can get the smooth transition. What is wrong with this additional proposal? Quote
Pšenda Posted June 14, 2023 Posted June 14, 2023 14 minutes ago, morabira said: So, what is wrong with that Topic title? 15 minutes ago, morabira said: You should read, look and analyze before making any comment. If you had read my post and analyzed it, you would have found out that I am talking about different thickness of segments (as stated in the title of your thread), not automatically generated smooth transitions. So writing in response to my post about transitions is completely unnecessary. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
morabira Posted June 14, 2023 Author Posted June 14, 2023 Then ask admin to change the title. No big deal what? Make the title 2 pages long. Quote
morabira Posted June 14, 2023 Author Posted June 14, 2023 Imagine using this drawing technique. But the initial design is not solid but in outline with different segment thickness. Quote
v_kyr Posted June 15, 2023 Posted June 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, morabira said: Imagine using this drawing technique. But the initial design is not solid but in outline with different segment thickness. That's usually difficult to accomplish with common mathematical defined single line style based Splines, Bezier-Curves, Nurbs ...! Further such let's name it "variable thickness outline line styles" would need some factor (a bunch of) more nodes here then. - However, instead you can try to reuse and simulate such sort of drawing with some adaptable outline vector brushes, in order to see how far that would get you. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
morabira Posted June 15, 2023 Author Posted June 15, 2023 If I have to use brush, I better use inkscape power stroke. Do old fashion calligraphy. Like this Quote
MusliDesign Posted June 19, 2023 Posted June 19, 2023 I can see that this is a good addition for designing without sketches. Quote
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