RBeci Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 2023-06-04-19-22-35.mp4 During I try to set the color lightness the basic color is changed nodeus and R C-R 1 1 Quote
R C-R Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 2 hours ago, RBeci said: During I try to set the color lightness the basic color is changed What did you expect to happen? If you change the lightness then the color must change to reflect that. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
NotMyFault Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 when the video starts your are dragging, but not using the loupe symbol, but the color circle. What do you want? sample a fresh color: click-and-hold the luope symbol, then drag over the canvas to sample a new color. When you lift the mouse button, the color is sampled and show in the circle apply the sampled color to your tool or object (depends ob which tool and layer is active): click on the color circle Again, you are mixing both actions in the start of the video. Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected.
walt.farrell Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 15 minutes ago, R C-R said: What did you expect to happen? If you change the lightness then the color must change to reflect that. The odd thing is that at about 0:07 into the recording, the color picker is tapped to transfer the color to the upper color well, but at that point the HSL sliders and the value shown on the right under the well are different. They should match, and they do for me. R C-R and RBeci 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
walt.farrell Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: when the video starts your are dragging, but not using the loupe symbol, but the color circle. What do you want? sample a fresh color: click-and-hold the luope symbol, then drag over the canvas to sample a new color. When you lift the mouse button, the color is sampled and show in the circle apply the sampled color to your tool or object (depends ob which tool and layer is active): click on the color circle Again, you are mixing both actions in the start of the video. You can drag the loupe or the circular well next to it; it's all one icon. That fills the circular well. The video shows this. You can then tap on the circular well to transfer the color to the main well. The video shows this. That should also change the HSL sliders at the top of the dialog. It does for me when I take those actions. It did not for the OP, for some reason. I don't think you've explained it, but perhaps I just didn't understand. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
R C-R Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: The odd thing is that at about 0:07 into the recording, the color picker is tapped to transfer the color to the upper color well, but at that point the HSL sliders and the value shown on the right under the well are different. They should match, and they do for me. I had not noticed that but it could just be some kind of redraw/refresh issue. Later in the video when the Lightness slider is changed, the values match. Curious. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
NotMyFault Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: You can drag the loupe or the circular well next to it; it's all one icon. That fills the circular well. The video shows this you are correct. walt.farrell 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. My posts focus on technical aspects and leave out most of social grease like „maybe“, „in my opinion“, „I might be wrong“ etc. just add copy/paste all these softeners from this signature to make reading more comfortable for you. Otherwise I’m a fine person which respects you and everyone and wants to be respected.
walt.farrell Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 46 minutes ago, R C-R said: Later in the video when the Lightness slider is changed, the values match. Yes, but the H value still doesn't, I think, and I think that's what the OP is questioning. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
R C-R Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Yes, but the H value still doesn't, I think, and I think that's what the OP is questioning. ??? As soon as the slider gets moved at around 0:10 it shows 268 & remains at that value. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
walt.farrell Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 26 minutes ago, R C-R said: ??? As soon as the slider gets moved at around 0:10 it shows 268 & remains at that value. H in the HSL sliders was 268, but the H value in the HSL list below the color well was 298 when the color sampler was tapped to load the color well. That is the discrepancy I mentioned above. When the L slider was touched the H value below the color well changed to 268. That is the color change the OP is referring to, I think. Changing the L slider should not change the H value (and does not, for me). But also, the two H values should be the same at all times (and are, for me). So the OP's experience differs from my experience in two ways. Old Bruce 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
R C-R Posted June 4, 2023 Posted June 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: So the OP's experience differs from my experience in two ways. Same for me. It appears that the picker is misbehaving for the OP, but I do not know the cause or cure. walt.farrell 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
RBeci Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 19 hours ago, R C-R said: What did you expect to happen? If you change the lightness then the color must change to reflect that. The HSL bars doesn't reflect the picker's color! That is a bug! Quote
RBeci Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 The HSL bars does not reflect the picker's color, this is definitely a bug! 2023-06-05-17-32-34.mp4 Quote
RBeci Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 The only workaround is, if you click in the HSL textfield on the right and change the value up and down +1 -1, very annoying 2023-06-05-17-38-07.mp4 Quote
walt.farrell Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, Red Sands said: I can't replicate it though? Nor can I. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
RBeci Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 OK, I'm getting understand this behavior, It seems the document is in CMYK color model, If I change to RGB, the HSL bars works "well". Quote
RBeci Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 It seems it was the key. The document was in CMYK format: Picker in CYMK: Picker in RGB format: Quote
Old Bruce Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 5 minutes ago, RBeci said: It seems the document is in CMYK color model, If I change to RGB, the HSL bars works "well". Well I just tested it in Photo 2.1.0 and an RGB 8 bit Adobe RGB document. I get the anomaly sometimes when using the Lightness slider (from the top of the window) changing the Hue setting. Other times not. However if I use the Lightness slider on the side of window I cannot get the Hue slider to change its value. RBeci 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.5.5 | Affinity Photo 2.5.5 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.5 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
RBeci Posted June 5, 2023 Author Posted June 5, 2023 17 minutes ago, Red Sands said: Could you upload a sample file with the issue? I used these dialogs a billion times without issues so I think the color chooser works normally, the issue must be related to something related to your config or the file itself. Although it looks a bug, I just can't trigger the bug myself. Dear, here is the file, you can download it for a week: https://we.tl/t-3m8MI8w0sc Thanks! Quote
Hangman Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 Thus far, unable to replicate on macOS... Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3027 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3027 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3027 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
R C-R Posted June 5, 2023 Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, Hangman said: Thus far, unable to replicate on macOS... Same here. Tried both with RGB & several CMYK profiles but it always works as expected for me. Hangman 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Staff NathanC Posted June 6, 2023 Staff Posted June 6, 2023 Hi @RBeci, I've moved this thread over to Bugs. I've replicated this issue and it has now been logged with the developers, many thanks 🙂 Old Bruce and RBeci 2 Quote
RBeci Posted June 11, 2023 Author Posted June 11, 2023 On 6/6/2023 at 2:30 PM, NathanC said: Hi @RBeci, I've moved this thread over to Bugs. I've replicated this issue and it has now been logged with the developers, many thanks 🙂 Dear @NathanC! Thank You so much! Beci Quote
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