Text-anchored (pined)objects shrink when pasted or duplicated

[Daniel Gibert]

This is on Publisher 2.1.0 (Yep, the shinny new one…)

If you copy a text frame or group where there is a pinned object, the object shrinks when pasting or duplicating.

STEPS:

1 - Pin a shape or object to  a text.

2 - Copy or duplicate layer or alt-drag the text

3 - The pinned object in the copy is much smaller than original

Checked that it is the pin that causes the error. If you copy it unpinned it pastes right.

[Hangman]

Hi @Daniel Gibert,

I've not been able to replicate this, for me copy/paste, Cmd J to duplicate the layer and Alt drag all result in the pinned shape remaining the same size but maybe I'm missing something...

[Daniel Gibert]

11 minutes ago, Hangman said:

Hi @Daniel Gibert,

I've not been able to replicate this, for me copy/paste, Cmd J to duplicate the layer and Alt drag all result in the pinned shape remaining the same size but maybe I'm missing something...

I restarted the app and now it is behaving right, but it is making a new odd thing.

If I pin an object, make a group and change the size of the group, or just resize the text frame (thus also reducing the pinned object) when I duplicate the group the pinned object reverts to original size, the text remains reduced. Also If I keep alt-dragging the pinned object gets bigger and bigger…

 

It is all very weird and random. Like a random size property not being preserved or changed… I'll keep testing to refine the issue.

[MikeTO]

Thanks for the video, I can duplicate this problem.

1. Pin a shape into artistic text
2. Scale the artistic text object larger or smaller
3. Drag copy the artistic text object - if you scaled the first one larger, the copy will be smaller (or vice versa).
4. Drag copy the copied artistic text object - the new copy will be even larger (or smaller)

It happens with copy/paste and not just drag copy but it's faster with drag copy to create many generations of increasingly larger or smaller pinned objects.

[Daniel Gibert]

22 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

Thanks for the video, I can duplicate this problem.

1. Pin a shape into artistic text
2. Scale the artistic text object larger or smaller
3. Drag copy the artistic text object - if you scaled the first one larger, the copy will be smaller (or vice versa).
4. Drag copy the copied artistic text object - the new copy will be even larger (or smaller)

It happens with copy/paste and not just drag copy but it's faster with drag copy to create many generations of increasingly larger or smaller pinned objects.

It also happens with frame text.

[Hangman]

Thanks for the video, I can likewise now replicate this...

[Dan C]

Thanks for your report @Daniel Gibert!

I can confirm that I have been able to replicate this here on Windows also, it appears as though it has been reported previously, however there were no clear replication steps at the time - so I will be sure to update this with our developers now to be resolved asap.

I hope this helps

[MikeTO]

1 hour ago, Daniel Gibert said:

It also happens with frame text.

Ah, it happens with Frame Text only if you've used the content scaling handle on the frame. I hadn't tried that.

[Daniel Gibert]

1 minute ago, MikeTO said:

Ah, it happens with Frame Text only if you've used the content scaling handle on the frame. I hadn't tried that.

The curious thing is that happens even if you have closed the app and try to copy-paste or duplicate a frame form a long ago document. I just opened a document from February, copied a pined frame and still remembers that in February I had changed the size. As if the resize parameter remained stuck with the frame after three months.

[Dan C]

15 hours ago, Daniel Gibert said:

As if the resize parameter remained stuck with the frame after three months.

According to our developers:

"When resizing a text frame using the text resize handle (the outermost handle on the bottom right of the frame), this resizes the text at the same time as the frame.

This is achieved by applying a rescale factor to the frame (the alternative would be to physically change the attributes of the text, meaning that it wouldn't technically be the same style as before) which is then retained with the frame"

This rescale factor is saved with the object/document, hence why this remains in your file as mentioned above. This is the correct behaviour for text, though not for the pinned object issue, which has been logged with our team for both text object types