jackamus Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 The manual say to choose the knife tool from the Pencil Tool flyout - I don't seem to have a Pencil tool just a Knife tool already in view in the tools. If I attempt to use the knife tool it just drags a blue rectangle. What am I doing wrong? Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
G13RL Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, jackamus said: If I attempt to use the knife tool it just drags a blue rectangle. What am I doing wrong? Select the object (or objects) to be cut before using knife tool. Quote
lepr Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, jackamus said: What am I doing wrong? Nothing wrong. That blue box is a selection marquee because you didn't already have an object selected. Make a habit of inspecting the status bar at bottom of the window to learn about a tool. Pšenda 1 Quote
jackamus Posted May 3, 2023 Author Posted May 3, 2023 OK I selected the photo and then the knife tool and cut the photo in half but the photo disappears. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
Hangman Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 1 hour ago, jackamus said: OK I selected the photo and then the knife tool and cut the photo in half but the photo disappears. The Knife tool is designed for vectors only, what you've effectively done is to cut the image bounding box to create two closed curves... you can however re-add the image to either newly created curve as a clipped layer... "The Knife Tool lets you draw a freehand or straight cutting line across any open curve or shape to split the object up into smaller fragments. A scissor-cut feature also lets you click on any open curve to break the curve at a chosen node or anywhere on a curve segment; a polycurve is created." Quote Affinity Designer 2.5.7 | Affinity Photo 2.5.7 | Affinity Publisher 2.5.7 Affinity Designer Beta 2.6.0.3027 | Affinity Photo Beta 2.6.0.3027 | Affinity Publisher Beta 2.6.0.3027 MacBook Pro M3 Max, 36 GB Unified Memory, macOS Sonoma 14.6.1, Magic Mouse HP ENVY x360, 8 GB RAM, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U, Windows 10 Home, Logitech Mouse
Alfred Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 2 hours ago, jackamus said: OK I selected the photo and then the knife tool and cut the photo in half but the photo disappears. Doesn’t exactly the same thing happen with the Knife Tool in DrawPlus? Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
R C-R Posted May 3, 2023 Posted May 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alfred said: Doesn’t exactly the same thing happen with the Knife Tool in DrawPlus? That is something only Windows users might know about, since there were never any of the "plus' apps released for Macs..... Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Alfred Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 11 hours ago, R C-R said: That is something only Windows users might know about, since there were never any of the "plus' apps released for Macs..... Jack was a keen DrawPlus user, back in the day, but there was no particular reason for you to be aware of that! R C-R 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
jackamus Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 Affinity has got a long way to go to be as good as DrawPlus was! I think the process of converting from the DrawPlus coding was never successfully achieved. One would believe that, with today's technology, converting from and old way of doing things to a new way would be dead easy! But apparently not! Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
Alfred Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 4 hours ago, jackamus said: I think the process of converting from the DrawPlus coding was never successfully achieved. Affinity Designer wasn’t converted from the DrawPlus code base, it was developed from scratch. Unlike DrawPlus (which is heavily dependent on Windows features) Affinity Designer was designed from the outset to be ‘platform agnostic’ so that the features available in the original Mac version would mostly be available Windows and iPad, too. And as you’re probably aware, Affinity Designer files can be opened in any Affinity app (unlike DrawPlus files which can only be opened in DrawPlus). Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
jackamus Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 Hi Alfred, I know all that as it was explained to me ages ago. The point I was making that with today's two main platforms it has not been possible for Serif to create a new vector app that is as good as DrawPlus was. Affinity is a dumbed down version in terms of having as many different features. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
R C-R Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, jackamus said: The point I was making that with today's two main platforms it has not been possible for Serif to create a new vector app that is as good as DrawPlus was. AD is better than DrawPlus on Macs because DrawPlus won't run at all on the macOS! 😀 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
jackamus Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 Your missing the point! Its got nothing to do with what will run on what OS! Its to do with DrawPlus being a better drawing program than AD. You could do more with it. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
AffinityMakesMeWonder Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 44 minutes ago, R C-R said: AD is better than DrawPlus on Macs because DrawPlus won't run at all on the macOS! 😀 Piece of cake to run Windows on Mac for free… UTM and a ”free” version of Windows 11 Arm have made my Macbook Pro M1 being able to test Affinity Suite on Windows, and, perhaps old Serif software… Alfred 1 Quote Happy guy playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typographic, photographing, Color & forms, AND, old Synthesizers from the 1980-1990’s… Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021 connected to an 32” curved 5K external display, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015 - also an Lenovo iMac i7 clone with 24” touch screen and Windows 10…
R C-R Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 34 minutes ago, jackamus said: You could do more with it. My point is that you can't do anything with it on a computer running the macOS, or for that matter on an iPad! Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
walt.farrell Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 36 minutes ago, jackamus said: Its to do with DrawPlus being a better drawing program than AD. You could do more with it. So? Serif has never publicized or positioned Designer as a DrawPlus replacement, as far as I know. They are different, and separate applications. Pšenda and R C-R 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.2.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
R C-R Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 2 minutes ago, AffinityMakesMeSmile said: Piece of cake to run Windows on Mac for free… But you can't do that on a Mac running the macOS, which is why I mentioned that limitation specifically. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
jackamus Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, R C-R said: My point is that you can't do anything with it on a computer running the macOS, or for that matter on an iPad! You still don't get it RCR!! Forget all about platforms and just consider two vector programs one called DrawPlus and one called AD. You could do more with DrawPlus than you can with AD. That all I am saying. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
jackamus Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 12 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: So? Serif has never publicized or positioned Designer as a DrawPlus replacement, as far as I know. They are different, and separate applications. With respect Walt, that's a cop-out! They are only different is as much as one was more versatile than the other. This is the reason why people migrate from Corell Draw or Illustrator or any of the other drawing programs. Given the choice I wouldn't have migrated from DrawPlus to AD except for the fact that DrawPlus was being superseded with a Mac version which wasn't as good. Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
R C-R Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 4 minutes ago, jackamus said: That all I am saying. All I am saying is I cannot do anything with DrawPlus on my Mac or my iPad. That is my point. 1 minute ago, jackamus said: They are only different is as much as one was more versatile than the other. Again, DrawPlus offers zero versatility on a Mac running the macOS or on an iPad. So at least in that sense, AD is far more versatile in that it runs on 3 different operating systems & files created in AD on any of them can be edited in any of the others. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
Alfred Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 5 minutes ago, R C-R said: files created in AD on any of them can be edited in any of the others Better than that, files created in any Affinity app can be edited in any of the others. Native PhotoPlus files could be used to some extent in the other ‘Plus’ applications, but DrawPlus and PagePlus had completely incompatible file formats . R C-R and Old Bruce 1 1 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.5.1 (iPad 7th gen)
jackamus Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 11 minutes ago, R C-R said: All I am saying is I cannot do anything with DrawPlus on my Mac or my iPad. That is my point. Again, DrawPlus offers zero versatility on a Mac running the macOS or on an iPad. So at least in that sense, AD is far more versatile in that it runs on 3 different operating systems & files created in AD on any of them can be edited in any of the others. I'm beginning to think its pointless discussing this with you RCR! Of course you couldn't use it on a Mac but that doesn't mean it wasn't a better program. Even it was used only on a BBC or a Sinclair or any other generation of computer you could still was a better program. BTW Why don't you remove that silly mask from your Avatar since everyone now knows that COVID was a scam and was created to get people to take a dangerous jab as a population reducer. R C-R and Pšenda 1 1 Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
jackamus Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 9 minutes ago, Alfred said: Better than that, files created in any Affinity app can be edited in any of the others. Native PhotoPlus files could be used to some extent in the other ‘Plus’ applications, but DrawPlus and PagePlus had completely incompatible file formats . So what? File incompatibility is fact of computer life. If you just wanted to create something to look at at or print then they were OK. But if you want to put it though a washing machine of different file formats then it was useless but it still had more drawing features than AD! R C-R and Alfred 2 Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
R C-R Posted May 4, 2023 Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, jackamus said: So what? The "what" is the indisputable "fact of computer life" that the Affinity apps do offer file compatibility across all 3 Affinity apps on all 3 of their supported platforms, while DrawPlus does not. So, for those who value that versatility AD is the better app. If you don't, so be it, but many of us do. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.7 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7
jackamus Posted May 4, 2023 Author Posted May 4, 2023 1 hour ago, R C-R said: The "what" is the indisputable "fact of computer life" that the Affinity apps do offer file compatibility across all 3 Affinity apps on all 3 of their supported platforms, while DrawPlus does not. So, for those who value that versatility AD is the better app. If you don't, so be it, but many of us do. Like you said Affinity may be able to offer all their AD apps with file compatibility on Mac OS and Windows OS but like I said it still doesn't have the drawing features that DrawPlus had. I'm only interested in the drawing aspect of an app rather than its file swapping capability. When I look around for a drawing app I look at their drawing features first and their drawing features second! Quote If voting made any difference it wouldn't be allowed! Rules are for the guidance of wise men and the obedience of fools. To be ignorant of world happenings is forgivable - to be willingly ignorant is unforgivable. Truth does not need to be protected only lies do. Mac OS Monterey 12.6.4 AD version 2.4.2
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