Kelly Bellis Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 (edited) Just wondering... Is there an alternate to Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) in Affinity Photo? In tests done just now, I wasn't able to en masse open 244 images in AfPhoto2 like can be done from Bridge in ACR. Required Task Manager to kill the process. If not, is there an alternate stand alone Windows program to Adobe Camera Raw (ACR)? Lightroom is only subscription-based. I'm not interested in subscription-based software and is why I'm stuck with Adobe CS6 programs like Bridge which includes a path to ACR (v9.1.1) Thank you for any thoughts. Kind regards, Kelly Edited April 28, 2023 by Kelly Bellis Quote
stuck Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Kelly Bellis said: Is there an alternate to Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) in Affinity Photo? If you mean, "Can Photo 2 develop RAW files?", then yes. Download the fully functional free trail and try it for yourself. Scroll to bottom of this page to find a download link: https://affinity.serif.com/en-gb/photo/ Quote
Kelly Bellis Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 Yes, I understand that there's a "Develop Persona", but it seems to act more like persona non grata. As mentioned, I already have Affinity Photo 2. When I tried processing a group of .dng images like I would normally do in ACR, the program choked and had to be terminated using Task Manager. Quote
Kelly Bellis Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 @lacertoOnly as far as the price of it. The issue that raised this post is a bit obscure, and very briefly, has to do with an EXIF attribute being introduced, perhaps even inappropriately. Slightly more verbose explanation: After numerous tests this morning, it appears that Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) v9.1.1 creates the attribute DistortionCorrectionAlreadyApplied with a value of TRUE even when no CA is applied, nor any lens correction has been made. Additionally, in all tests, the attribute named LensManualDistortionAmount existed, and in all instances its value was 0 (false). Where this is possibly relevant: In conversation with an application developer. I'm unsure why Reality Capture can't look for LensManualDistortionAmount instead. This has never presented an issue for PTGui when loading images corrected for CA. Quote
v_kyr Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 36 minutes ago, Kelly Bellis said: Slightly more verbose explanation: After numerous tests this morning, it appears that Adobe Camera Raw (ACR) v9.1.1 creates the attribute DistortionCorrectionAlreadyApplied with a value of TRUE even when no CA is applied, nor any lens correction has been made. ... https://exiftool.org/TagNames.pdf Kelly Bellis 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
Kelly Bellis Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 @v_kyr Thank you! Very much appreciated!!! Quote
Ldina Posted April 28, 2023 Posted April 28, 2023 Kelly, LightRoom writes a TON of metadata to RAW files, at least to DNG format. I assume ACR does as well. These extra metadata fields are there to record and recall all the various slider positions and settings used in ACR or LR. It is my experience that Affinity Photo Develop Persona completely ignores all those "extra" metadata fields that Adobe writes to the RAW files, but they are still retained inside the file's metadata, even when exporting from AP to other formats. I've always used LR and/or Bridge as my database, organizer and RAW developer (prior to Affinity), but any settings written into metadata by Adobe is ignored when opening in AP. You can choose to use LR/ACR to export to AP while including all LR/ACR adjustments. That uses ACR to convert the RAW file before it opens in AP, which means you no longer have a RAW file once it opens in Affinity. Affinity doesn't have a database program like LightRoom at this time. Not sure that addresses your concern. Quote 2024 MacBook Pro M4 Max, 48GB, 1TB SSD, Sequoia OS, Affinity Photo/Designer/Publisher v1 & v2, Adobe CS6 Extended, LightRoom v6, Blender, InkScape, Dell 30" Monitor, Canon PRO-100 Printer, i1 Spectrophotometer, i1Publish, Wacom Intuos 4 PTK-640 graphics tablet
Kelly Bellis Posted April 28, 2023 Author Posted April 28, 2023 @Ldina Thanks. v_kyr nailed it. The workaround will be to use ExifTool to strip out the deprecated tag before loading the images into Reality Capture, at least until they update RC. Quote
RichardMH Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 What camera do you have? Capture One Express is free for Sony, Nikon and Fujifilm and might do what you want. Quote
Kelly Bellis Posted April 29, 2023 Author Posted April 29, 2023 @RichardMH Thanks for asking. The camera is made by DJI. The Model is the FC3170 and is on the Mavic Air 2. Just a snip from 1 of the 244 images from the mapping mission for the 2023 World Record Ice Carousel. More on the event here: https://www.facebook.com/NMIB21/ And in case you're interested, I've posted all of my aerial and terrestrial panos here: https://www.360cities.net/image/2023-world-record-ice-carousel-ready-to-spin https://www.360cities.net/image/2023-world-record-ice-carousel-the-big-motor https://www.360cities.net/image/2023-world-record-ice-carousel-1st-day-of-as-built-survey-alt-26-m https://www.360cities.net/image/2023-world-record-ice-carousel-1st-day-of-as-built-survey https://www.360cities.net/image/2023-world-record-ice-carousel-2nd-day-of-as-built-survey Kind regards, Kelly Quote
lphilpot Posted April 29, 2023 Posted April 29, 2023 Not sure if this will meet your needs, but darktable is an excellent and very powerful raw editor with DAM (and it's free): https://www.darktable.org Once again, though, it may not be what you're needing. Quote Len Affinity Photo 2 | QCAD 3 | FastStone | SpyderX Pro | FOSS: ART darktable XnView RawTherapee Inkscape G'MIC LibreOffice Windows 11 on a 16 GB, Ryzen 5700 8-core laptop with a cheesy little embedded AMD GPU Canon T8i / 850D | Canon EF 24-70mm F4L IS USM | Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L USM | Rikenon P 50mm f/1.7 | K&F Concept Nano-X filters ...desperately looking for landscapes in Nolandscapeland Flickr
v_kyr Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 In the open source world there are three major cross-platform apps, which deal with photo/image management and RAW processing ... digiKam darktable RawTherapee ... and they do mostly rely for camera RAW file processing and lens data handling etc. on the same used third-party opensource projects as APh does rely here, namely LibRaw, Dcraw, Lensfun, libexif ... Ldina and Kelly Bellis 2 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
lphilpot Posted April 30, 2023 Posted April 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, v_kyr said: RawTherapee ... and they do mostly rely for camera RAW file processing and lens data handling etc. on the same used third-party opensource projects as APh does rely here, namely LibRaw, Dcraw, Lensfun, libexif ... For a slightly different / tweaked fork of RawTherapee, also check out ART (Another Raw Therapee) - https://bitbucket.org/agriggio/art/wiki/Home Its UI / UX is a tad more conventional than RT. As the developer puts it, "ART is a derivative of the popular RawTherapee, trading a bit of customization and control over various processing parameters for a simpler and (hopefully) easier to use interface, while still maintaining the power and quality of RawTherapee." Of course neither ART nor RT offer DAM, if that's a requirement. They're just pure raw editors only. Quote Len Affinity Photo 2 | QCAD 3 | FastStone | SpyderX Pro | FOSS: ART darktable XnView RawTherapee Inkscape G'MIC LibreOffice Windows 11 on a 16 GB, Ryzen 5700 8-core laptop with a cheesy little embedded AMD GPU Canon T8i / 850D | Canon EF 24-70mm F4L IS USM | Canon EF 70-200mm F4 L USM | Rikenon P 50mm f/1.7 | K&F Concept Nano-X filters ...desperately looking for landscapes in Nolandscapeland Flickr
Kelly Bellis Posted April 30, 2023 Author Posted April 30, 2023 Thank you for suggestions everybody! Kind regards. Quote
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