How do I adjust images properly with inverse page margins?

[Wayne Burrows]

Hello All,

I need some help with positioning images within differing margin measurements in PDF files within Publisher. There is no way that I would be able to type out exactly what my issue is so I recorded this 2 minute video that gives you an exact breakdown of what my dilemma is.

Appreciate Any and All assistance!

Thanks!

WB

[GarryP]

I don’t think it will be easy to retrospectively change the positions of the images now that you have added them but it might be worth thinking about re-doing the document using Smart Master Pages.

See this video for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Hl4ST84Ac

Once you have set-up the smart master pages you may find that the whole process is quicker.

[thomaso]

Since you are working in V2 you can select ALL objects on ALL right pages + move them via the Transform Panel as wanted. @lacerto demonstrated the workflow in a video in this recent post:

Two notes:

• In case you plan to do more documents or more pages like this it can help to work with Master Pages where you place two Picture Frame of the required image size with the according Picture Frame Property set. This will enable you to move or scale all pictures on left / right pages separately across the entire document. This also makes it easy to crop the images as desired in your other thread.

• You can place a video directly to the forum without the need to upload it first somewhere else. Advantage: it will show up directly in your forums post without the need for others to visit another website to see your video.

[Wayne Burrows]

3 hours ago, thomaso said:

Since you are working in V2 you can select ALL objects on ALL right pages + move them via the Transform Panel as wanted. @lacerto demonstrated the workflow in a video in this recent post:

Two notes:

• In case you plan to do more documents or more pages like this it can help to work with Master Pages where you place two Picture Frame of the required image size with the according Picture Frame Property set. This will enable you to move or scale all pictures on left / right pages separately across the entire document. This also makes it easy to crop the images as desired in your other thread.

• You can place a video directly to the forum without the need to upload it first somewhere else. Advantage: it will show up directly in your forums post without the need for others to visit another website to see your video.

Thank you so very much for this Thomaso! When I first realized that I would have to adjust the images on either the right or left pages, I actually thougt of scaling either side all at once, but once I realized that I couldn't simply click-drag to highlight only one side from the top page all the way down to the bottom, I figured that there was no way to go about it doing it that way. But in the video that you just pointed out to me, I see that Affinity is SO PRECISE with what it's able to choose >no matter< how tiny the images show up on the screen... Well now that has given me a renewed hope and blown my mind at the same time. Lol. I didn't even consider trying it because I just knew (but actually I didn't know) that there would be no way to choose just the left or right pages with everything being zoomed out SO far.

As far as the Master pages are concerned, I'm not quite sure that I follow. I have mine set up with Guides so that once everything is loaded into my project, I just snap them within the borders of the guides and adjust each accordingly. But it seems like what you are telling me is that I'm able to set up my Master pages in a way so that when I load in the PDF pages that has the images on them, the images will immediately fall into place due to how my Master page is set up? Is that what you are telling me or am I misunderstanding? I will be doing plenty of these types of projects in the upcoming future so by all means, clear me up on what you are instructing me on so that I can implement that improved workflow ASAP.

With the videos - I use an online software called Loom. I record directly to their server (nothing is created and kept on my desktop) - So after recording, I just simply copy the link and paste it here. I considered using my OBS to record the videos here on my local machine but I didn't want them to start taking up so much space. But NOW that I think about it again, I won't have to actually keep them after they're uploaded anyway -  I can just delete them afterwards and carry on with my day. Lol.

@R C-R and @firstdefence pointed me in this direction sometime last month but like I said, I wasn't thinking about the whole process too clearly so I just kept using the links. So Thanks for bringing that up again Thomaso. Sometimes I need to have things poured into my head more than once before the 'clarity' of it all kicks in.

WB

[thomaso]

25 minutes ago, Wayne Burrows said:

I'm able to set up my Master pages in a way so that when I load in the PDF pages that has the images on them, the images will immediately fall into place due to how my Master page is set up? Is that what you are telling me

Yes. Master Page objects are useful if the need to edit their instances on the document pages in a limited way only, e.g. text editing, picture placement etc..
For further, individual edits Master Page objects can get cumbersome because of the workflow which requires to select the Master Layer + choose "Edit Detached" on ever single document page to be enabled to edit an object there.  For instance if you would want to apply a stroke or fill colour to the Picture Frames that gets a different colour on every page etc.

But as far I understand your project correct, it appears to be a good job for Master Page objects.  For instance …

[Wayne Burrows]

@thomaso, I started off trying to go about setting up a Master page as you demonstrated and THIS wound up happening. Could you let me know where I went wrong here because I'm unable to figure it out.

ALSO - I wasn't sure if the videos that are attached to these threads are able to provide audio as well. The reason I say that is because there hasn't been one that I have come across that includes audio, which is why I just attached my video link to the previous sentence. I didn't want to take the chance of embedding it into this thread and then finding out that you didn't hear a single word I said once you responded. Lol.

WB

[Wayne Burrows]

7 hours ago, GarryP said:

I don’t think it will be easy to retrospectively change the positions of the images now that you have added them but it might be worth thinking about re-doing the document using Smart Master Pages.

See this video for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Hl4ST84Ac

Once you have set-up the smart master pages you may find that the whole process is quicker.

Ok thanks Gary. I'll take a look and see if would work for me!

[thomaso]

4 hours ago, Wayne Burrows said:

Could you let me know where I went wrong here because I'm unable to figure it out.

Unfortunately I can't figure it out either, nor am I able to reproduce this guides "auto-copy" in my V1. I assume, master C does not have any Master applied? For the margins not showing: check if the menu item "Show Margins" is activated.

Do the issue(s) resist if you create a new document with a master page + repeat your workflow there? If yes, then it would need more input from a user with V2.

For your second issue I must admit that I don't understand the voice / speech which is a problem of my reduced English skills. If none else will respond can you describe the issue as written text?

Video uploads: Yes, you can upload video with sound, too. When you placed a video in your post you can play it before pressing the Submit button. Also, when creating a post the 'toolbar' in the editor window shows at its right end a page icon with a loupe. Click this to get a preview of your post. Furthermore you can delete any placed item via the circled x in the upper right corner of its thumbnail below the text editor. If you delete an item form the text only it will show up in the submitted post at its end. Finally you can edit an submitted post if you choose "Edit" via the "…" icon at the upper right corner of your submitted posts.

Smart Master Pages: it is a powerful feature but requires the layout done as master page objects. It is rather useful if you want to toggle between various layouts, for perfect work it needs the items being custom named individually, which reduces the efficiency of this workflow to certain use cases.

[Wayne Burrows]

9 hours ago, GarryP said:

I don’t think it will be easy to retrospectively change the positions of the images now that you have added them but it might be worth thinking about re-doing the document using Smart Master Pages.

See this video for an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3Hl4ST84Ac

Once you have set-up the smart master pages you may find that the whole process is quicker.

I'm not sure if there's a way of using this method with the PDF puzzle files that I have to use. I don't see a way of changing the image positions retrospectively either - and I can't think of a way to intertwine the PDFs that I'm using with how Smart Master Pages work. It would involve too much time & effort to extract each image from each PDF file and then try to utilize SMP. SMP is great, I just don't think that I would be able to put it to work for me within this scenario. And I'm not even sure if the type of images that are in these PDF files could be used as a jpg or png would be.

If you believe there's a way of making both work in harmony, please let me know. Thanks

WB

[Wayne Burrows]

2 hours ago, thomaso said:

check in if the menu item "Show Margins" is activated.

Do the issue(s) resist if you create a new document with a master page + repeat your workflow there? If yes, then it would need more input from a user with V2.

For your second issue I must admit that I don't understand the voice / speech which is a problem of my reduced English skills. If none else will respond can you describe the issue as written text?

Video uploads: Yes, you can upload video with sound, too. When you placed a video in your post you can play it before pressing the Submit button. Also, when creating a post the 'toolbar' in the editor window shows at its right end a page icon with a loupe. Click this to get a preview of your post. Furthermore you can delete any placed item via the circled x in the upper right corner of its thumbnail below the text editor. If you delete an item form the text only it will show up in the submitted post at its end. Finally you can edit an submitted post if you choose "Edit" via the "…" icon at the upper right corner of your submitted posts.

Smart Master Pages: it is a powerful feature but requires the layout done as master page objects. It is rather useful if you want to toggle between various layouts, for perfect work it needs the items being custom named individually, which reduces the efficiency of this workflow to certain use cases.

You hit it right on the head. the 'Show margins' option wasn't checked.

Thanks for the 'video' info. I will be adding them into threads here like everyone else from now on. Lol

The Smart Master Pages tool is extremely powerful but I don't think it will be able to help me get through my 'second issue'. I don't import images individually as I'm creating by puzzle books. The puzzle images are a part of the PDF page files that I import into APu. To kinda piggyback on what @GarryP had mentioned in this thread, I don't see a way of Smart Master Pages being helpful in this scenario because I import the PDF puzzle pages by way of 'Add Pages From File' and the images are a part of each PDF page. Now if I used the 'Place Tool' to include the puzzle images, I believe I would be able to use SMP then. But so far, I'm unable to figure out how to apply SMP with what I'm currently doing with the puzzle PDFs that I use. But I'm pretty brand new at using Affinity so maybe there's a way to get this done that I haven't come across yet.

WB

[thomaso]

25 minutes ago, Wayne Burrows said:

You hit it right on the head. the 'Show margins' option wasn't checked.

That's good to hear! – How about the unintentionally copied guides on your new master page, does it still occur or still happen in a new .afpub?

27 minutes ago, Wayne Burrows said:

But so far, I'm unable to figure out how to apply SMP with what I'm currently doing with the puzzle PDFs that I use.

I agree, that is why I mentioned my thoughts. This feature might be useful for a layout with many objects + images in Master Page Picture Frames.

[Wayne Burrows]

30 minutes ago, thomaso said:

How about the unintentionally copied guides on your new master page, does it still occur or still happen in a new .afpub?

I agree, that is why I mentioned my thoughts. This feature might be useful for a layout with many objects + images in Master Page Picture Frames.

I'm still scratching my head on the copied guides issue.

As far as SMP is concerned, I'm looking forward to putting it to good use once I come across a project that I can use it in.

Thanks for all of the help with all of this. Appreciate it! See you soon. I already know that I'll be back with a litany of conundrums to be worked out. Lol

WB