Delay in text updating -Lagging Text update delay in Publisher V2.0.4

[Gregory-CJ]

I am running Publisher 2.0.4  on a simple 2-3 page document ( no images).There is a 2 second time delay before the text appears (updates) on the screen after I have typed some text.

The cursor actually moves but the text is "invisible" for a few seconds before the text becomes visible.

If I erase the typed text and re-type it , the same "invisible "  experience occurs.

When I erase the text and I re-type the text a third time then the text appears simultaneously ( updates) as I type the text.

When I change tools and come back to the typing tool.. Publisher then defaults back to the 2 second time delay for typing updates.

It's very frustrating  to attempt to type a Publisher document with this delayed reaction.

I have played with the different settings under performance but this time delay occurs in all possible options

display =metal

use only integrated GPU = yes & no

Hardware Acceleration= yes & no

Here are my hardware specs.

Can you help

Thank you.

 

 

 

[walt.farrell]

Where in the document are you typing the text? Near the beginning, or toward the end?

[Gregory-CJ]

Hi Walt,

Thanks for the timely response.

This 2 second delay shows up on

• the first page as well as the other pages.
• the beginning and end of each page.

As mentioned, usually once I have typed/erased/typed/erased/then 

the text updates with the typing.

 

[Old Bruce]

This could be a screen drawing issue. Try some typing, so you have no new text showing but the cursor has moved. Now scroll or zoom out and back or in and back. If the typed text shows then it is a screen drawing problem.

If this is it, then, (sadly) I have no idea of a cure for you.

[DWright]

Can you please confirm the settings that you are using in the Performance section of the Publisher settings.

[Gregory-CJ]

It's 2 in the morning and I should be sleeping but I'm thinking about this text delay thing.

Then it hits me....maybe it's the text that I am importing into Publisher... probably a formatting incompatibility issue.

My work flow consists of;

1. dictating my thoughts into my Android phone using a speech to text app and then taking the simple text (unformatted) into
2. Apple pages (where it gets formatted) to polish the writing and
3. finally bringing the text and illustrations together in Publisher. 

The reason that I don't take the text straight into Publisher is because of the annoying text delay.

This morning,

1.  I make a copy of the original document I am presently working on (including master pages)
2. and then delete the 6 pages of text but leave the master pages intact to create a blank new version.
3. I then copy each page from the original document into Apple notes which strips away any kind of formatting and then I
4. bring each newly unformatted page back into the blank new version ....
5. but  even bringing in unformatted text does not correct the the text delay issue.
6. It is still showing up...so apparently its not a formatting issue.

Time to get simple.

I create a new one page publisher document and type some text and it works perfectly, there is not the text delay.

Next I create another one page publisher document this time using the master page template which I am using in the 6 page doc. mentioned above.

The text delay shows up!

Looking at the layers tab of the  master page, I see that I built it with 8 layers....

So I take the master page into affinity photo and "merge visible" the eight layers into one.

Then I go back into publisher and add a new text box and surprise... no text delay..

Apparently, the culprit is the multi-layered master page..... and the solution appears to be keep the master page to one layer only.

And now it makes sense, looking back over using Publisher  V1 & V2. 

I now realize that the text delay issue is because I have been using  multi-layered master pages  in my publisher documents.

So going forward,  I will design fancy master pages and make sure to "merge visible" all the layers.

Hopefully, this fixes the delay issue once and for all.

Thanks for everyone's input!

[MikeTO]

Hi, could you please share a test document that demonstrates the slowdown? We could see if we could duplicate the problem and perhaps Serif could fix it so it doesn't impact others in the future.

Thanks

[Gregory-CJ]

Hi Mike,

The best that I can do is share the master page layer stack.. I can't share the actual image, nor the file because it is proprietary material.

All the best

Greg

 

 

[Old Bruce]

18 hours ago, Gregory-CJ said:

The best that I can do is share the master page layer stack....

I am not seeing any Text Frames there. Isn't this thread about Text?

[Gregory-CJ]

Hello Old Bruce,

Yes, this thread is about text and more specifically why there is a delay in typing text when using Publisher.

In summary, I found that having a multi-layered Master Page ( 8 layers) causes the delay in typing text.

My last screen capture was just to show the layer stack within the master page that was the creating of the problem.

Normally, I do not add a "Frame Text" to my master pages but rather use the "Frame Text" when building normal pages.

So, just for an example this latest screen shot I have included a Frame Text on the top of the master page.....just so you get the idea.

The delay in typing the text within Publisher happens whether you have a Frame Text box within the master page or not as long as there are multiple layers within the master page.

Again, the culprit is  the multi-stacked master page. So I now collapse any layers I have created within my master page, down to one layer, so my final master page just has only one layer to it.

[MikeTO]

Could you please create a test document without any private information? I tried creating a similar layer stack and typing text into the frame on page 1 and it was lightning fast for me. I suspect the issue may be related to the specific pixel layers in your document or the effects applied to them.

[Old Bruce]

Hi @Gregory-CJ,

I have to echo MikeTO's request for a document that shows this problem. Far too many variables here for us to try and recreate the problem.

[Gregory-CJ]

Its been a hectic two weeks, sorry for the delay in getting back to you.

Regarding the original  Master page template.

So I thought it was a simple matter of hiding each of the layers with the group for the master page temple one at a time, to see if any one layer ( at its FX) might be causing the text delay.

I found out quite quickly that I cannot hide ( turn off ) any of the layers with the group folder once this group is a part of the master page..

 

Replicating the Master page template

Okay,, I will replicate the first master page template and should then be able to find the layer culprit by hiding each layer in succession .

Again, I found that I cannot hide any of the layers  but  the text flowed smoothly and lightning fast.

Conclusion,

I built the first template months ago and must of done something in the creation of it that causes the delay in text flow.... and I cannot seem to replicate the issue.

But for me, personally, I did discover by rasterizing the layer stack within the master page template into one layer that the delayed text response issue disappeared

and I had/have lightning fast typing within that particular document.

So this exercise was helpful in that regard.

It's probably just one of those bugs that will fade into obscurity .

[walt.farrell]

2 hours ago, Gregory-CJ said:

I found out quite quickly that I cannot hide ( turn off ) any of the layers with the group folder once this group is a part of the master page..

You would need to do that either on the Master Page itself, or on a document page after selecting the Master layer and choosing Edit Detached.

 

[Gregory-CJ]

Thanks Walt for the tip about using the Edit detached option. 

[Gregory-CJ]

There is something "weird" about the master page template in question.  ... both the master page and the document page containing the master page, when I choose

Edit Detached... this option crashes Publisher....

Using another master page template design, when I choose Edit Detached.... I get the expected function of being able to edit the detached and publisher doesn't crash .

So everything points to that first master page template having some "weirdness" to it... and unfortunately , I can't upload this proprietary design....