orangefizz Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 I've been copy/pasting between Affinity Photo 2 Beta tabs and noticed considerable lag after clicking a tab. These are small documents. I don't know if this is a memory/caching issue but obviously the aim would be for nimble tab-switching. I previously had larger documents open in the same session, but since closed to test this. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
orangefizz Posted April 17, 2023 Author Posted April 17, 2023 That is not good to hear. I'm honestly not gonna bother posting here if it becomes another issue graveyard. Tab-switching is a high priority issue. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
Staff Jon P Posted April 17, 2023 Staff Posted April 17, 2023 Apologies if threads sometimes get missed, we are keeping an eye on this forum and responding to most threads, sometimes they may have to be prioritized due to the amount of people reporting an issue/if it's easily reproduced, but we do aim to get around to everything. A couple of us have tried this on different machines and can't reproduce a 4 second delay with some medium/large size documents. Out of curiosity, is this slow down on new blank documents too, or does the slowdown scale with the size/amount of the documents you have open? If so could you let us know what system specs you are using? Can I also confirm if this is a change in behavior in 2.0.4? Quote Serif Europe Ltd. - www.serif.com
orangefizz Posted April 17, 2023 Author Posted April 17, 2023 You have to work on a document for a long time (alert: history) before you'll see this. I tested this out, first by adding a new doc with other existing ones open. Lag. Then I closed all documents, created two blank ones. Lag. Closed AP2 and re-opened, created one empty doc and opened an image in another tab, no lag. Seems it's not flushing the data/history/whatever cache when documents are closed but, more importantly, that it's causing lag with open documents in multiple tabs. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
orangefizz Posted April 17, 2023 Author Posted April 17, 2023 Did you restart before making this screen recording? Once the lag starts it doesn't stop, even for new empty docs, until you restart the app. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
AffinityMakesMeWonder Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, anto said: If you have two documents open with 20-30 pages each, it's impossible to work between them. As I understand this is affecting Windows only, but, just for fun I loaded two different PDF with around 150 pages each (with both text graphics and photos - two manuals about Korg synthesizers). Everything is smooth as hell switching tabs, copy & paste between the documents… Macbook Pro 16” M1… It seems that Windows platform is more buggy for Serif compared to Mac… Quote Happy guy playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typographic, photographing, Color & forms, AND, old Synthesizers from the 1980-1990’s… Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021 connected to an 32” curved 5K external display, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015 - also an Lenovo iMac i7 clone with 24” touch screen and Windows 10…
orangefizz Posted April 17, 2023 Author Posted April 17, 2023 1 hour ago, AffinityMakesMeSmile said: As I understand this is affecting Windows only I'm on a Mac and the files I was editing were tiny. However, the *other* files I previously had open were larger. It didn't resolve until I relaunched the app. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
AffinityMakesMeWonder Posted April 17, 2023 Posted April 17, 2023 1 minute ago, anto said: So the problem still exists in MacOS Not for me… My Publisher have been opened since release, without restart, and, no restart of the OS either… Have worked alot in Publisher with large documents and haven’t notice what you showed/writed above… Quote Happy guy playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typographic, photographing, Color & forms, AND, old Synthesizers from the 1980-1990’s… Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021 connected to an 32” curved 5K external display, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015 - also an Lenovo iMac i7 clone with 24” touch screen and Windows 10…
orangefizz Posted April 17, 2023 Author Posted April 17, 2023 I should clarify that my original post on this issue is related to Affinity Photo, not Publisher. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
Komatös Posted April 18, 2023 Posted April 18, 2023 Hi @antoand @orangefizz I know the problem since V2.0.4. It concerns, with me, not only the tabs but also the change with e.g. the brush categories. Remedy created with me only the deactivation of the hardware acceleration. @AffinityMakesMeSmile Devices with iOS/macOS use hardware acceleration on defined hardware, which significantly reduces the error rate, in Windows/Linux there are so many combinations of hardware that only nuances are enough to bring drivers and programs out of sync. Quote MAC mini M4 | MacOS Sequoia 15.3.2 | 16 GB RAM | 256 GB SSD AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 24H2 (26100.3194) Affinity Suite V 2.6.1 & Beta 2.6 (latest) Interested in a free (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF I already had a halo, but it didn't suit me!
Staff Chris B Posted April 18, 2023 Staff Posted April 18, 2023 4x documents open, each with 300+ pages full of dense text and I see a delay of about 1-2 seconds. With a few blank documents open the switch is instantaneous. This is on a low to mid range laptop with an RTX 3050 Ti and an 11-gen i7. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Staff Chris B Posted April 18, 2023 Staff Posted April 18, 2023 I'm not trying to dispute what's going on in the video. If anything, I am agreeing in that with lots of content, there is definitely a delay. I imagine when the documents have embedded docs and imagery, this delay could increase further. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Staff Chris B Posted April 18, 2023 Staff Posted April 18, 2023 https://www.dropbox.com/request/G0GF4KldYT1ydZLqCBTg Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Staff Chris B Posted April 18, 2023 Staff Posted April 18, 2023 Your document is a bit slower than the ones I created. Perhaps 3 seconds to switch to it. So again, I agree there is something here and it is worth a submission to the developers. debraspicher 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
orangefizz Posted April 18, 2023 Author Posted April 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Chris B said: I'm not trying to dispute what's going on in the video. If anything, I am agreeing in that with lots of content, there is definitely a delay. I imagine when the documents have embedded docs and imagery, this delay could increase further. It's not just the size/complexity of *open* documents, but even after those documents have been closed the effect lingers until you actually restart the app. That's a problem. I'll try the suggestion to disable hardware acceleration, though that seems like an odd thing to do, given the issue. Quote Mac Mini (2018) - OS X 10.15.7 - 3 GHz 6-Core Intel Core i5 32 GB 2667 MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 1536 MB
Staff Chris B Posted April 19, 2023 Staff Posted April 19, 2023 That looks pretty bad. Can you please check Task Manager on Windows to see if it's eating CPU/RAM/VRAM etc and attach a screenshot. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Staff Chris B Posted April 19, 2023 Staff Posted April 19, 2023 I can log this but I need to know if it's a regression over Retail 2.0.4 - can you confirm? I'm only asking you because you seem to be able to easily reproduce this with a substantially long delay when switching. For me, it's nowhere near as much of an issue. If we can determine if 2.0.4 is affected or not it may help the developers narrow down where a change was made which may have caused this. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Staff Chris B Posted April 19, 2023 Staff Posted April 19, 2023 Who said it wasn't a problem? I was trying to figure out if it is a regression. Please do not misconstrue our intentions to pass back bug reports to the developers. We just need as many details as possible. This issue is now logged as we managed to reproduce with a 500 page document. We were also seeing upwards of 3 or 4 seconds between switching docs. Just to make you aware, we are QA and we have little to no influence over what the developers fix. stokerg 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Staff Affinity Info Bot Posted September 1, 2023 Staff Posted September 1, 2023 The issue "Considerable delay when switching tabs" (REF: AFB-7647) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.2.0.1985". This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release. Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions. If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us. Quote
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