Node tool, join curves

[NotMyFault]

Hi,

when trying to join 2 or more curves with node tool, the handles get crazy and one of the connected nodes seems always positioned to the upper left corner, leading to ugly connection of curves, depending on where the curves are positioned on the canvas.

other strange observation:

if you have a note selected, and click on another neighboring node, the handle does not switch to the newly selected. You need to switch to a different unrelated node to get the handle activated.

 

Edited April 13, 2023 by NotMyFault
New video, added second issue.

[Dan C]

Hi @NotMyFault,

I'm unable to replicate either of these reported behaviours currently - are you able to provide a sample document where this occurs please?

[NotMyFault]

Hi @Dan C

Here you go

 

node tool join bug ipad 2.0.4.afdesign

[NotMyFault]

Another report (questions section) about the same bug 

 

[Dan C]

Thanks for providing both of these for me - I was testing using the Pen Tool in AFD2 iPad and was unable to replicate this, however I can see both yours and the other users document are using the Vector Brush Tool and using this I'm able to see the same issue here.

I'm getting this logged with the devs now as both yours and the secondary report files behave as expected on Desktop.

I hope this helps

[NotMyFault]

Another similar report 

 

[iuli]

Because I have a high volume of work to which joining curves plays a central part, I find very upsetting that this bug is present in both retail version 2.2 and beta version 2.3 on the iPad. It affects both vector brush and pencil tool and no stabiliser and controller option make any difference.

iPad Pro M1 11in, iPadOS 17.1

Please fix. Kind regards.

test_file_join_.afpub

[LOB]

Is there an update on this bug??  I created drawings (as I typically do) in the iPad Designer app, but when I try to join curves on the Mac version of AD (version 1 and 2) I get the same issue....

 

This has never happened before, I've been drawing lines in the iPad app and joining them together in the Mac program for years now.  Every time the curve joining the nodes snaps to the top left area of the document. Even if I select the exact two end nodes I'd like to join.... like here:

 

I've replicated the issue with the test files the other users have provided here.  I need help!  This is a major bug for me and would set me very behind on my large commission I've created all the artwork for already.

 

 

[Dan C]

Hi @LOB,

This issue is unfortunately still open with our developers at this time - though I'll be sure to 'bump' this with the team to bring it to their attention once again as I understand how critical this can be to your workflow.

I hope this helps!

[iuli]

Is this sorted out in the latest beta (which sadly I cannot try)? — because I just tried 2.3.1 and the bug is still there.

All the best.

Edited February 4, 2024 by bananayoshimoto
Simplified

[Dan C]

Hi @bananayoshimoto,

I can confirm that currently this issue remains open with our developers - though I have 'bumped' this with your post to bring it to our teams attention once more.

The 2.4 beta on iPad does not yet resolve this issue, but should be available to all users who have signed up to the beta program. You can find out more about singing up here - 

If you're having trouble with the beta build, or accessing the beta version, please post in the below section of the forums and our team will be happy to investigate/assist further -

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/forum/139-other-new-bugs-and-issues-in-the-betas/

I hope this clears things up!

[Bri-Toon]

I too would like to voice for this bug to be resolved. Being able to join paths is very important for vector design. I understand that selecting the “sharp” curve button can resolve the issue for two lines to join into one, but when you have more than two, that sharp button does not work. The Pencil Tool is one of my most used tools, so it is hard using Affinity Designer without this issue being fixed.

Edit:

I found a workaround. If you intersect the lines that you want to join, and then subtract the parts that stick out with the Shape Builder Tool, the paths join easily.

[Dan C]

Hi @Bri-Toon,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention once again - I'll be sure to 'bump' this with the development team now as I certainly understanding how frustrating this issue can be.

18 hours ago, Bri-Toon said:

I found a workaround. If you intersect the lines that you want to join, and then subtract the parts that stick out with the Shape Builder Tool, the paths join easily.

Many thanks for this workaround, I'll be sure to keep this in mind for any future reports whilst our team works to resolve this

[Phil Mitchell]

I'm having the same problem in v.2.5.0.2471

iPad 12.9" (2nd gen)

iOS 17.4.1

Attached is a trivial sample showing the problem. Great app, please fix this terrible bug!

AffinityDesigner_JoinCurvesBug.afdesign

[Phil Mitchell]

@Bri-Toon would you take pity on a novice and explain how to "intersect" then "subtract"? I am drawing lines with the Pencil tool, then attempting to Join with the Node tool. My lines typically form a closed shape. I've been experimenting with intersect-then-subtract, but things just get weirder. :-0

[Bri-Toon]

6 hours ago, Phil Mitchell said:

@Bri-Toon would you take pity on a novice and explain how to "intersect" then "subtract"? I am drawing lines with the Pencil tool, then attempting to Join with the Node tool. My lines typically form a closed shape. I've been experimenting with intersect-then-subtract, but things just get weirder. :-0

I’ll pass on the pity, but I took a screen recording of what I meant. I hope it helps.

[Phil Mitchell]

Huge thanks to @Bri-Toon for the genius idea and the movie! It's annoying to have to add these extra steps, but otherwise I'd have to abandon AD2 and start over with some other app.

Really appreciated!

[Bri-Toon]

I’m glad I could help.

[iuli]

A kind reminder that on Affinity for iPad, this bug is still around almost 2 years later. Sadly, the above solution it might be great for a hobbyist playing around, but is of no use for professional work.

There are numerous bugs that are not being addressed while new functions are being added over them, but this bug (and some pdf’s not recognising/ replacing fonts upon importing, which I reported before and which sadly is still around in 2.6 beta) is so bad that professionals like myself had to move away to other software to earn our bread.

Please consider addressing these bugs on iPad.

Respectfully, and kind regards.

 

[iuli]

This bug still exists on beta 2.6.0.2984. I wonder if Canva is aware of it, and why certain aspects of  Affinity on iPad are left broken, with such a big, healthy company behind  it.

[Mark Upton]

This bug is still there and makes work flow very difficult. Even work arounds don’t work well because nodes are in the wrong place and correcting them alters the original curve

[ronnyb]

This is pathetic! Once again, Affinity refuses to fix basic, foundational bugs. But hey, we got a stupid, garbage “AI Object Select Feature” and other such nonsense being developed and beta tested. Let’s keep building useless features on a shaky foundation! That’s turning out well….

AFFINITY: FIX THE DAMN, MULTI-YEAR-OLD BUGS ALREADY! JOINING NODES IS FOUNDATIONAL TO VECTOR DESIGN. OR STOP CALLING YOURSELF “PROFESSIONAL” AND GO BACK TO THE KIDS PLAYGROUND.

[Meliora spero]

On 12/19/2024 at 12:44 PM, iuli said:

This bug still exists on beta 2.6.0.2984. I wonder if Canva is aware of it, and why certain aspects of  Affinity on iPad are left broken, with such a big, healthy company behind  it.

Canva? Before the acquisition, Serif's goal was not to oil every cog but rather to hit certain sales targets with headlines for a marketing team that never felt ashamed to exaggerate the news in a release. After the acquisition, Canva's primary goal with Affinity is for Canva to achieve its own primary goals. So, there's no one at Canva meticulously examining every stitch in Affinity, worrying about quality from top to bottom.

However, you’re witnessing yet another issue following a trend in Affinity - namely, that many errors are never fixed or are fixed far, far too late. And if there's something tragically observed from the outside, it’s all the groveling, begging "please, and don't get me wrong, I love blah blah" customers, who get nothing for their obsequiousness.

Time will tell what Canva intends to do with Affinity, and until then, it’s naive to think that Affinity is on its way to achieving a professional focus with professional algorithms and professional usability. If anything, the iPad versions are lagging behind in a sadly significant way.

Affinity cannot be saved by a few extra developers and project managers to reach the heights you dream of. It will take a great deal more, and that won’t happen.

[Romy666]

Fix this bug, please!