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Hi,

when importing IDML file, Publisher remembers the first image and replace the others with it. If the frame differs in size from the original one it streches the image as shown. Same in retail v2.0.4 and in the Beta 2.1.0.1736.

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If the InDesign file used some sort of equivalent to Affinity's Picture frames then they may be set to Stretch to Fill

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1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

If the InDesign file used some sort of equivalent to Affinity's Picture frames then they may be set to Stretch to Fill

No such thing.

What about the repeating image? Pub changes all images with the first one.

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8 minutes ago, NNN said:

What about the repeating image? Pub changes all images with the first one.

I recall a bug discussion recently where this could happen if multiple images were copied (e.g., from web pages) and pasted into a document, but I don't remember the details. And IDML was not involved.

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3 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I recall a bug discussion recently where this could happen if multiple images were copied (e.g., from web pages) and pasted into a document, but I don't remember the details. And IDML was not involved.

I created the IDML from correct INDD file. So, nothing like you mentioned.

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29 minutes ago, NathanC said:

Hi @NNN could you provide me with the .IDML file referenced in your screenshots so we can investigate further? I've provided a private upload link below.

https://www.dropbox.com/request/wvspjp6uE01Mi5fERsjb

Many thanks

It is uploaded.

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Thanks for sending the file over, somethings definitely going wrong on Publisher's end with this file as it's replacing all 32 embedded images with the initial image on page 29, therefore I've logged this example with the developers.

As a workaround in InDesign, I found that unembedding the images, saving them to an external folder, save the IDML and then open the IDML in Publisher will correctly import the images in, at which point they can be changed back to embedded in Publisher's resource manager if required.

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14 minutes ago, NathanC said:

As a workaround in InDesign, I found that unembedding the images, saving them to an external folder, save the IDML and then open the IDML in Publisher will correctly import the images in, at which point they can be changed back to embedded in Publisher's resource manager if required.

Thank you very much Nathan. Images where already embeded in InDesign, I just converted to IDML and open it in Publisher.

What about streching?

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Also, any news about importing footnotes and endnotes from IDML?

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11 minutes ago, NNN said:

What about streching?

The Image/Frames are imported into Publisher with no image scaling set though evidently that's not the case with your original file, it's likely a by product of the issue with the embedded images all being replaced with the same initial image which is now logged. When importing your file into Publisher with the images set to linked they all appear to honour the same scaling that they had in InDesign.

9 minutes ago, NNN said:

Also, any news about importing footnotes and endnotes from IDML?

There is an outstanding improvement logged internally which relates to IDML import features that includes Footnotes/Endnotes, though it's not something I can provide a timescale for.

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Hi Nathan,

I think I found another bug. Please, open the same file I sent you and locate to a text with big number and decoration bellow. It is formated with "55 Naslov - broj". Now, I can't apply left indent to it and also I can't change the decoration position and size.

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...I created a new document and a paragraph style ("aaa") with bottom decoration on. When I start to change the left indent and after that the right one, I saw that the decoration travels with the number, which is a bug.

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1 hour ago, NNN said:

I created a new document and a paragraph style ("aaa") with bottom decoration on. When I start to change the left indent and after that the right one, I saw that the decoration travels with the number, which is a bug.

You could set the decoration to use Column instead of the Text as you have it now. Then just set the Decoration's offsets to 0 (zero).

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Hi Nathan,

I have eproblems with left indent in IDML file I sent to you.

So, I can indent left and right a centered paragraph in a new document without any problem, but in the IDML file when I try to indent the paragraph from the left, only second linee moves, not the whole paragraph. Right indent works well.

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Hi @NNN , 

I've taken a look at your file and it's bit of a strange one, I found that If put your text caret on that specific paragraph from your screenshot and assign the text style a left indent value (E.G 10mm), press Ok, then assign the paragraph to a different style and then immediately assign it back to the original style it will correct the left indent issue on that paragraph and correctly affect both the first and second lines. It did appear to have been imported with some local formatting applied but clearing the local formatting by re-applying the style didn't fix this, it had to be refreshed by applying the indent, selecting a different style and then reverting back.

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On 4/13/2023 at 12:09 PM, NathanC said:

Hi @NNN , 

I've taken a look at your file and it's bit of a strange one, I found that If put your text caret on that specific paragraph from your screenshot and assign the text style a left indent value (E.G 10mm), press Ok, then assign the paragraph to a different style and then immediately assign it back to the original style it will correct the left indent issue on that paragraph and correctly affect both the first and second lines. It did appear to have been imported with some local formatting applied but clearing the local formatting by re-applying the style didn't fix this, it had to be refreshed by applying the indent, selecting a different style and then reverting back.

It's too complicated to apply this to all other paragraphs. I'll wait a better times. :)

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The issue "IDML file imports with all embedded images replaced with the same initial image - File specific" (REF: AFB-7612) has been fixed by the developers in internal build "2.1.0.1769".
This fix should soon be available as a customer beta and is planned for inclusion in the next customer release.
Customer beta builds are announced here and you can participate by following these instructions.
If you still experience this problem once you are using that build version (or later) please reply to this thread including @Serif Info Bot to notify us.

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Having in mind the IDML file...

When I want to join some first line indented paragraph with the previous by pressing <BACKSPACE>, Publisher deletes some unexisting space characters. To try, just put the cursor in front of the red words and press <BACKSPACE> few times to join with the previous paragraph.

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