Color Wheels Different on Same Machine/Profiles

[DavidJoons]

Hopefully this is an easy fix.

I have 2 different files (designer) and they both have the same Colour Preferences (sRGB IEC61966-2.1), in fact all the colour options are the same.

But the colour wheels are different. One pops while the other one is just sort of dull. Same machine, same monitor, literally loaded into Designer side by side.

I can copy an icon from one to the other and it pops in one and is dull in the other.

Same HSL, 302/100/46.. a vivid pink in one, a drab pink in the other.

Please help.. what is going on here?

[NotMyFault]

Can you share a screenshot of the full application window, and upload the documents?
 

with color wheel, do you mean the wheel from color panel, or an layer within your file?
https://affinity.help/designer2/en-US.lproj/index.html

 

 

[lacerto]

Check if your other document is in RGB mode and the other in CMYK mode:

UPDATE: Though it could also be two RGB documents but just with different color profiles or different RGB bit-depths (8-bit/32-bit). The concept of "same" color is vague.

Adobe apps give the user an option to choose when pasting an object using another color profile either to preserve visual appearance (but possibly change color values), or to keep color values (but possibly lose visual appearance). That would be useful also within Affinity apps, which currently only support the latter method. But the video clip shows a different case, rendering the same color values in different color modes. When color modes are different, it depends on whether an app supports dual (multiple) color modes (and profiles) so that original definitions are retained even in different color mode (like RGB or HSL color values in CMYK mode and vice versa), but just rendered differently, according to profile-calculated color values without actually doing a destructive conversion. This explains why the "same" color values can have have widely different visual appearance in different color modes. 

[DavidJoons]

44 minutes ago, lacerto said:

Check if your other document is in RGB mode and the other in CMYK mode:

 

UPDATE: Though it could also be two RGB documents but just with different color profiles or different RGB bit-depths (8-bit/32-bit). The concept of "same" color is vague.

Adobe apps give the user an option to choose when pasting an object using another color profile either to preserve visual appearance (but possibly change color values), or to keep color values (but possibly lose visual appearance). That would be useful also within Affinity apps, which currently only support the latter method. But the video clip shows a different case, showing the same color values in different color modes. When color modes are different, it depends on whether an app supports dual (multiple) color modes (and profiles) so that original definitions are retained even in different color mode (like RGB or HSL color values in CMYK mode and vice versa), but just rendered differently, according to profile-calculated color values without actually doing a destructive conversion. This explains why the "same" color values can have have widely different visual appearance in different color modes. 

Thanks, this was it.

Assumed there was a (relatively) easy fix.

Was confusing me as they both had the same settings under Edit/Preferences/Colour

But you are right, RGB and CMYK selected respectively in Document Setup/Colour

[lacerto]

8 minutes ago, DavidJoons said:

Was confusing me as they both had the same settings under Edit/Preferences/Colour

The Preferences only determine the color profiles that a new document will have. You can opt to select the primary color profile for the  document color mode you choose, but the secondary profiles are determined by the profiles you had active in the Preferences when you created the document. After the document has its initial color profiles assigned, the Preferences do not basically change what you have chosen. You can manually change the underlying color profiles, though, by switching the color mode and then, while staying in that color mode, either convert to or assign a different color profile via File > Document Setup > Color.

So on the video I have basically identical files, which have ISONewspaper as the CMYK profile and AdobeRGB as the RGB profile. I could have anything at all in the Preferences, but they would have no effect on how these two files are shown.