Stacking: How to tackle down Background?

[Roland Rick]

Tackle down object in foreground (the lamp) by stacking works fine.

 

With only two pictures, the bike light has almost completely been removed.

 

Hot to do the opposite? I tried 1000 things, but now I am running out of ideas.

 

Pictures are originally raw, but size is to big to upload here. The result is not as perfect with the jpg's, but still ok.

 

Foreground:

 

Background:

 

The pictures are shot on tripod, so for stacking no Auto nor Live are necessary:

 

Any suggestions, how I can remove the BACKground with stacking?

 

Any help appreciated! :)

 

Cheers, Roland

[anon1]

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/14594-100-102-1-2/?p=65025

especially https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/14594-100-102-1-2/?p=66140

I think this is the same issue

 

you can try my procedure but as I explained in that thread it has some issues - I´d be glad to hear if you solve them through 

 

- I removed the attached image of one of the posts because I had no memory left on my account 

[Roland Rick]

Hi MBd, many thanks for you help.

 

Unfortunately, I am now more confused than before (last but not least missing the photos mentioned in your links above).  :rolleyes: Does it generally mean, it's yet not possible?

 

Last night, I have been trying all night long to develop a workflow over miscellaneous masking procedures. But I don't have a satisfying result yet... Even if I get at good B&W result, there is still a lot of work left with the selection tools to get a convenient mask.

I start with:

from the stack with

and apply

Results in

 

This will make use of selection brush easy, after using selection brush, I have a good mask to knock off the chair:

 

Doing studio shootings it's no problem to use the tools like Selection Brush, because you have a defined background (White / Green screen, what ever...).

 

But for outdoor and hand held, a kind of opposite function of "Stack: Object Removal" would be extremely helpful getting the object out of pictures like:

=> I want the bike knocked off, not the background. Like the example with the chair above.

Of course this two hand held pics are not sufficient - even not for a good result using "Stacking: Object Removal". I just added them, because they show quite good the typical situation where it may be used - because knock off the bike with the standard selection and refining tools is a little bit a Sisyphus work with this complex background.  :blink:

 

As far as I know, PS has also no such function.

 

Cheers,

Roland