Matthew Schultz Posted March 20, 2023 Posted March 20, 2023 See the attached image. The text frame on the top was created on a page rotated 90º to the right. The text frame on the bottom was created in a non-rotated page. Same fonts, same size. I can't fully left-justify the text in the frame created on the page rotated 90º. Quote
walt.farrell Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Matthew Schultz said: The text frame on the top was created on a page rotated 90º to the right. How did you rotate a Page? I'm not aware of that capability in Publisher. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Matthew Schultz Posted March 21, 2023 Author Posted March 21, 2023 View > Rotate > Rotate RIght Quote
walt.farrell Posted March 21, 2023 Posted March 21, 2023 10 hours ago, Matthew Schultz said: View > Rotate > Rotate RIght Thanks. That is not rotating the page, only your view of the page. It is as though you turned your monitor 90 degrees, or (if you were working on physical paper) you turned the paper 90 degrees to make it easier to draw something. In that case, what you've really done is made some vertical text, so your page is really this, and Justify Left doesn't make much sense. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
Matthew Schultz Posted March 21, 2023 Author Posted March 21, 2023 My apologies for not providing enough detail to properly explain why I'm doing what I'm doing. So let's correct that… First, I'm not a print designer or page layout professional. I don't use AP2 on a daily basis, so sometimes I do what's fastest (for me) instead of the "better" or "right" way of doing it. It's not out of laziness or a lack of desire to learn; I just have a ton of things to get done, and the fastest way is usually good enough. So if there is a better or right way of doing what I'm about to explain, I'd appreciate the education. I'm designing a two-sided instruction sheet that's 6.5" (w) x 7.5" (h), so it's smaller than an 8.5" x 11" letter page. The layout for the front of the document is portrait; the layout for the back is landscape. I've created crop marks to cut the page accurately, and because the page is designed to be folded into into six 1.25" panels, I have score marks in the margin outside of the layout's borders defined by the crop marks. In order to ensure everything is lined up exactly on the front and the back for cutting and folding, I created two master pages: Master A is laid out in portrait. Master B, while still in portrait mode, is laid out in landscape. That is, I've rotated content on the Master – like the page footer – 90º counter-clockwise so it's laid out in landscape mode. The document has two pages, each one assigned the Master A and B respectively. When I create a text frame on page one, which uses Master A, it works as expected. When I create a text frame on page two – which I've rotated the view 90º clockwise for so it reads correctly and is easy for me to work on – it's created on the view-rotated page 90º clockwise as expected. But when you enter some text in the text frame, it's offset from the left side of the text frame. It doesn't matter if you enter the text after just creating the text frame, or enter the text after rotating the text frame 90º counter-clockwise so it's view appropriate; the text is offset from the left side. Now, having said all that… Opening my doc up this morning to walk through the design to explain it, something else is going on. Now all text frames are being created with what i can only describe as a predefined margin that I can't remove. Existing text frames don't have it, so either I've set a setting I can't find, or something else is going on. I can't find any settings differences when comparing a newly created text frame with a "margin" to an existing one with no margin. I know it has to be something simple but I feel like I've gone through every available character/paragraph/text frame setting to no avail. I promise I'm not incompetent; just a newbie in the app. : ) I'll see if I can figure it out, and if not, I'll start with nuclear options like trashing prefs. Quote
Matthew Schultz Posted March 21, 2023 Author Posted March 21, 2023 Update: I fixed it, though I'm not exactly sure what happened or how. New text frames were created with an "invisible" left indent; the text frame panel indicated there was none (it's set to "0 in"). After enabling the text ruler I was able to click and drag to the left in order to eliminate the inset. I'm not sure how I created it, and I can't recreate it. Note, however, that new text frames are missing ruler indent controls present in the "original" text frames. I'm sure it's PEBKAC, but now I'm curious… Quote
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