how to order pages without drag&drop?

[Antje Müller]

Edit for those having the same question:

The answer is:

- At the moment there is in fact no option to move pages without drag&drop but by inserting numbers like in InDesign.

- By enlarging the pages-panel it's easier to to move pages far to the top or bottom because more pages are displayed.

- The pages list in the panel can be scrolled if you drag few millimeters before the end of the panel but not above/below. It's not a bug when it doesn't scroll although the scolling is activates in the submenue.

 

 

Hello! I have documents with hundrets of pages and need to move some like page 174 should become page 38. Drag&drop in the panel doesn't really work because I can move the page only the few pages forward/backward that are displayed in the panel. (The list doesn't move by itself if I drag above/below the panels window!) So I was looking for the function like in indesign where I can directly place the 174 after 37, but I can't find anything like that. Did I miss it?
(V2 on Mac 10:15)

Thanks!

[firstdefence]

as far as I am aware there is no move page to option although if it doesn't exist it should.

 

 

[thomaso]

Workaround: Drag the panel from its dock + drag its corners to resize it, if wanted to full screen size. Then switch from small thumbnails to medium to get the page thumbnails displayed in a grid rather than a vertical list.

[Antje Müller]

27 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Great & simple idea! Thanks :-) :-)

 

Workaround: Drag the panel from its dock + drag its corners to resize it, if wanted to full screen size. Then switch from small thumbnails to medium to get the page thumbnails displayed in a grid rather than a vertical list.

 

[thomaso]

33 minutes ago, Antje Müller said:

Great & simple idea!

I wouldn't call it great nor simple, since you may experience issues when dragging selected pages to a different, specific position, especially when the thumbnails in the panel need to scroll while dragging. To me great & simple would be an interface which lets you define the page selection and their new position numerically, not visually by dragging.

Another workaround works quite different without any dragging but with a document copy + deleting + adding pages. This may be easier to handle for a larger number of pages in a document of many pages, it is less useful for a bunch of several independent page moves:

[Antje Müller]

3 minutes ago, thomaso said:

I wouldn't call it great nor simple, since you may experience issues when dragging selected pages to a different, specific position, especially when the thumbnails in the panel need to scroll while dragging. To me great & simple would be an interface which lets you define the page selection and their new position numerically, not visually by dragging.

Another workaround works quite different without any dragging but with a document copy + deleting + adding pages. This may be easier to handle for a larger number of pages in a document of many pages, it is less useful for a bunch of several independent page moves:

well, "great & simple" means: I have an immediate solution without the need to wait for an update! And there's such a hughe hughe need to get really finally rid of any monopolists that create more and more dependencies and so many people still follow and continue to act like marionettes. My happyness with this solution for now is a political and cultural statement.

[thomaso]

2 hours ago, Antje Müller said:

I can move the page only the few pages forward/backward that are displayed in the panel. (The list doesn't move by itself if I drag above/below the panels window!)

By the way, this sounds you don't make use of the full range of features in this panel.
I can't imagine an advantage NOT to have the scroll option activated:

I am glad the workarounds work for you, sure they are better than no option. I am just / still confused by the development decision to force the small thumbnails to list view, regardless of the available space – and actually I am also surprised that there was no change in V2 (according to your screenshot).

[Antje Müller]

10 hours ago, thomaso said:

The scoll view is activated but doesn't work.
Many things don't work here on mac like they should. But I'm still happy to have finished with CS6.

I also wonder about the ongoing problems with basic features while many special effects are added. But I guess programming such a software is a hughe interactive and complex task. 

 

 

By the way, this sounds you don't make use of the full range of features in this panel.
I can't imagine an advantage NOT to have the scroll option activated:

I am glad the workarounds work for you, sure they are better than no option. I am just / still confused by the development decision to force the small thumbnails to list view, regardless of the available space – and actually I am also surprised that there was no change in V2 (according to your screenshot).

 

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, Antje Müller said:

The scoll view is activated but doesn't work.

You wrote "if I drag above/below the panels window". Above/below doesn't work for me either. But dragging up or down to the edge of the thumbnails area + wait (hold for ~half a second) works for me and starts scrolling in V1 – while moving the cursor in the title area stops scrolling immediately (which feels like a useless coded limitation). Unfortunately I can't run V2 in my macOS to check this feature. But maybe @firstdefence will pop-in once more and confirm your (not-)scroll experience.

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2 hours ago, Antje Müller said:

I also wonder about the ongoing problems with basic features while many special effects are added. But I guess programming such a software is a hughe interactive and complex task. 

It is indeed confusing that the known (and confirmed/logged/tagged) bugs where not fixed before V1 got closed + coding of V2 got started. Together with new bugs in the new V2 features this decision can cause a worse user experience for V2 users.

[laurent32]

In my case, I can easily move pages without problems… and I'm on Publisher v2.0.4 over macOS Ventura…

"testing" went from p20/21 to p24/25 for example…

[laurent32]

Even we a bigger file…

"testing v2" went from p18/19 to p196/197.

I was able to scrawl by positioning the cursor near (0,5mm) the top and bottom of the window showing the pages (see red arrows) :

[Antje Müller]

34 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Great, thanks tomaso! Yes, if I drag right to the perfect millimeter close to the edge it starts scolling, juhuuu. Thanks for taking the time to go really into the details! :-)

 

You wrote "if I drag above/below the panels window". Above/below doesn't work for me either. But dragging up or down to the edge of the thumbnails area + wait (hold for ~half a second) works for me and starts scrolling in V1 – while moving the cursor in the title area stops scrolling immediately (which feels like a useless coded limitation). Unfortunately I can't run V2 in my macOS to check this feature. But maybe @firstdefence will pop-in once more and confirm your (not-)scroll experience.

–>

It is indeed confusing that the known (and confirmed/logged/tagged) bugs where not fixed before V1 got closed + coding of V2 got started. Together with new bugs in the new V2 features this decision can cause a worse user experience for V2 users.

 

[Antje Müller]

22 minutes ago, laurent32 said:

My question concerned documents with hundrets of pages. Move a page 624 to 198 with your method and you'll see why InDesign has the feature to do it without drag&drop. Let's wait for the next updates...

 

In my case, I can easily move pages without problems… and I'm on Publisher v2.0.4 over macOS Ventura…

"testing" went from p20/21 to p24/25 for example…

 

[Hilltop]

Antje, you wrote your reaction within thomaso's post. This might be confusing, so better to place it underneath the quote.

[Antje Müller]

2 minutes ago, Hilltop said:

Antje, you wrote your reaction within thomaso's post. This might be confusing, so better to place it underneath the quote.

I'm not used to forums. It's a quite strange appearance to me. But I guess tomaso is able to find his way. :-)

[Hilltop]

14 minutes ago, Antje Müller said:

 

This is better :-). It's not only for thomaso's benefit as other forum members try to follow the discussion as well.

[Antje Müller]

no idea what you mean, but however, my question is answered.

[thomaso]

1 hour ago, Antje Müller said:

taking the time to go really into the details! 🙂

1 hour ago, Antje Müller said:

no idea what you mean, but however, my question is answered.

Well, I agree to @Hilltop's hint. Other community users with possibly the same issue may get confused when searching for the solution, respectively want to find your comments to a previous suggestion (which could be wrong;).

To make your thread historically   more convenient you have the option to edit your posts. Click the 3-dot-icon … in the top right corner of one of your posts and choose "Edit". This enables you to 1.) cut your text from my quotes and 2.) paste them below the quote box as your response. Optionally you also can reduce the quote text to its relevant parts by selecting text or image and pressing the delete button on your keyboard.

If wanted you may also click the checkbox "Show that the message has been edited" in the Edit window below the post. This is usefull if you edit a post that has got responses already. (to reduce confusion for later readers in e.g. @Hilltop's hints)

For future quotes: select some text + wait for the "Quote selection" option to pop-up (instead of clicking the + icon below a post).

Edited March 8, 2023 by thomaso

[Hilltop]

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

For future quotes: select some text + wait for the "Quote selection" option to pop-up (instead of clicking the + icon below a post).

Great tip! Didn't know that one.