eluengo Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 This is not really a bug. Appears as an interface error, perhaps. Both [Rasterise...] and [Rasterise&Trim...] menuitems under [Layer] menu have (as seen in the video I send) an ellipsis or three points after the text of the menuitem. Traditionally in MacOs this ellipsis/3points is reserved for menuitems that invoke an additional dialog to select or modify any behavior. But neither [Rasterise...] nor [Rasterise&Trim...] have this. Both actuate immediately. Could this be an interface design glitch? Emilio littlemovie.mov Quote
walt.farrell Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 There are situations where they will invoke another dialog, so there are times when it is appropriate to show the ... in the menu. Others have commented on this, and suggested that it would be better to show the ... conditionally, instead of all the time. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
eluengo Posted February 20, 2023 Author Posted February 20, 2023 Sorry, NO, Walt, in standard interface guidelines ellipsis after a menuitem is *always* leading to an ampliation of information the app needs to execute the adequate command. In MacOS this has been so since 1984. There is no exception neither option. Otherwise, the absence of ellipsis should (originally) lead to the inmediate execution of the command. This second rule has been broken so frequently that today no one is surprised if after such a no-ellipsis-menuitem comes a info-extension dialog. Is another error, but so frequent that isn’t really of interest. But both are errors. A different thing is that a such minimal question needs to be corrected or is really not necessary, I think it’s not. BUT this interface discipline is law (like other rules), and good practice, in the Mac universe (this is not necessarily so in other OSs, could every interface method or interface manager have its own rules and directives). A good interface design and interface rules are the best way to quick and errorless work. Regards Emilio Westerwälder and Old Bruce 1 1 Quote
Dan C Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 Hi @eluengo, Thanks for your report. As you've mentioned; 18 hours ago, eluengo said: This is not really a bug. However I can certainly appreciate the expected results when an ellipsis is used in a menu label, so I will be sure to pass this feedback through to our development team. As Walt has mentioned, there are times when this menu option will invoke a further dialog, so I will be requesting a change for this ellipsis to show when the option will invoke this dialog, and not to show when the action is performed immediately. I hope this helps! Old Bruce, lepr and user_0815 3 Quote
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