jesi-rgb Posted January 11, 2023 Posted January 11, 2023 Hi, everyone. Thanks beforehand for your time. So, basically my problem has to do with character spacing, no matter tracking, kerning, both or none. Affinity displays it completely wrong. Refer to the screenshots for more context. This first screenshot comes from a fresh new affinity document. I just wrote the text and set the font face. This is how Mona Sans looks against Arial, just to name an example. You can clearly see that the spacing for the Narrow Version and the Wide Italic version has been absolutely butchered. I can't tell if Arial and the Regular version for Mona have the same problem. To me, they look fine, but I don't really know what to expect after seeing how it reacts to very wide and narrow fonts. Second screenshot is how Keynote, just another app that deals with text, looks like. Font Book looks identically, as so does every other text app I have. Essentially, that's the spacing that the original designers had in mind. I am very aware of the ⌘ + opt + → command for setting this up manually. But, in this specific case, I am just writing a bunch of text. I expect the result to be like the second picture with no additional tweaking. Essentially, that's how the typeface was designed and I want to keep those proportions. For reference, I accessed the Character window and tweaked everything to be as default, or close to default as possible. That means, 0% everywhere. I went character by character, checking that the kerning for each pair was set to 0%. Question is: am I missing something? Am I doing something wrong? Or, on the other hand, is it a problem with Designer? Hope you can help me out. Lemme know if any other piece of info is needed. Specs: - OS: MacOS Ventura 13.0. This occurred in both an Intel machine and an Apple Silicon Machine. - Affinity Version is 1.10.6 Again, thanks much for your time beforehand. Quote
MikeTO Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 Hi Jesi and welcome to the forum. Mona Sans is a variable font and isn't available as a fixed font. Unfortunately, Affinity doesn't support variable fonts at this time so you won't be able to use this font with it. Cheers Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.6 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.6 for macOS Sequoia 15.3, MacBook Pro (M4 Pro) and iPad Air (M2)
jesi-rgb Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 Mike, thanks so much for your answer! Interesting, didn't know it was because of the variable nature. I still wonder: Keynote properly calculates the different character spacing correctly, but I would definitely say I does NOT support variable fonts. What gives in that case? Quote
MikeTO Posted January 12, 2023 Posted January 12, 2023 45 minutes ago, jesi-rgb said: I still wonder: Keynote properly calculates the different character spacing correctly, but I would definitely say I does NOT support variable fonts. What gives in that case? I haven't tried using variable fonts with Apple's apps but apps can support variable fonts and still provide only a list of named weights. Perhaps that's what Apple's apps are doing but macOS natively supports them. But good news, Mona Sans is also available as a standard font - I'd only read GitHub's news release when I replied earlier which stated it was a variable font. If you download the font from https://befonts.com/mona-sans-font-family.html you will get a folder that contains some subfolders. Ignore the Mona-Sans.ttf font at the root of the folder, that's the variable font. Instead open the TTF folder and you'll find 48 traditional TTF font files that you can install. So uninstall the version you have now and install the traditional version and you'll be all set. I just tested it with Affinity and it worked fine. Cheers Quote Download a free PDF manual for Affinity Publisher 2.6 Download a quick reference chart for Affinity's Special Characters Affinity 2.6 for macOS Sequoia 15.3, MacBook Pro (M4 Pro) and iPad Air (M2)
jesi-rgb Posted January 12, 2023 Author Posted January 12, 2023 That's interesting! I have the variable font installed, as you said, but this is the pop up menu I get from affinity. There are tons and tons of named fonts. In any case, thanks so much again, Mike. Hope you have a good day and a happy new year! Thanks a lot, MikeTO 1 Quote
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