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57 minutes ago, Fist of the mighty Bob said:

How can uninstall the "secret" msix version ?

From the standard Windows Start menu, or from Settings > Apps.

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For another method to uninstall the MSIX version... Press Win + S to pull up search and type in photo... then click the "arrow" to expand options next to the "Affinity Photo 2" option...

The MSIX version will have an option that says "App Settings". There is an uninstall option below it.

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1 hour ago, Dangerous said:

apps have to be uninstalled from the start menu list or from the 'page' if pinned to start.

Or from Settings.

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11 minutes ago, Fist of the mighty Bob said:

I actually hate the term app. To me these are programs. Like back in the day before smartphones became mainstream and all the dumbfxxx started saying app.

Isn't it this way, programs = applications = short form apps.

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1 hour ago, Fist of the mighty Bob said:

I actually hate the term app.

I attribute such baby-talk to the juvenilizing and dumbing down of Western civilization. I also hate terms like "veggies" for vegetables and "mac'n cheese" for baked macaroni and cheese. 

"App" sounds like a trivial little utility or toy, not a complex software environment that is necessary to do something so difficult as photo enhancement and restoration or book publishing. It's a wonder they didn't start calling them "softies" or "progies." 

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7 minutes ago, Granddaddy said:

"App" sounds like a trivial little utility or toy, not a complex software environment that is necessary to do something so difficult as photo enhancement and restoration or book publishing.

I think the reason for labeling programs of this type as applications is as follows:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_software

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My memory may well be wrong but I thought Mac computers had Applications and MS-DOS / Windows computers had Programs and the iPhone & iPad had Apps.

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1 hour ago, v_kyr said:

Isn't it this way, programs = applications = short form apps.

Using short forms (a.k.a. abbreviations) instead of spelling out or saying everything they stand for has been a part of language for as long as there has been language.

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13 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

My memory may well be wrong but I thought Mac computers had Applications and MS-DOS / Windows computers had Programs and the iPhone & iPad had Apps.

Macs have the App Store... application , available on the Apple menu, from which you can buy application programs.

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40 minutes ago, Granddaddy said:

I attribute such baby-talk to the juvenilizing and dumbing down of Western civilization. I also hate terms like "veggies" for vegetables and "mac'n cheese" for baked macaroni and cheese. 

"App" sounds like a trivial little utility or toy, not a complex software environment that is necessary to do something so difficult as photo enhancement and restoration or book publishing. It's a wonder they didn't start calling them "softies" or "progies." 

Well put , I can 100% relate to that. Calling a smartphone app, that only can do one (often stupid) thing, an app is somewhat understandable, but not complex professional software like Affinity Photo, Pro Tools etc., or even complex integrated software environments.

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2 minutes ago, Fist of the mighty Bob said:

Calling a smartphone app, that only can do one (often stupid) thing, an app is somewhat understandable, but not complex professional software like Affinity Photo, Pro Tools etc., or even complex integrated software environments.

Why? "App" is just an abbreviation for application program, which is software that can be used in various applications to perform specific tasks. Whether running on desktops or mobile devices they usually can perform many different tasks, for example the Affinity suite of apps that run on iPads or numerous other apps that run on various smartphone devices.

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1 hour ago, Old Bruce said:

My memory may well be wrong but I thought Mac computers had Applications and MS-DOS / Windows computers had Programs and the iPhone & iPad had Apps.

Windows 3.11 era, we had "Program Manager", but >Win95 era, Program/Application were used interchangeably for desktop from what I can remember. I've never thought of it as exclusive from one another as a Windows user.

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"Apps" I don't tend to think of as a short-hand because it can be easily differentiated by the install method and how execution is handled and their common use was introduced with smartphones. Mobile OS' are sand-boxed and require a middle man (app stores) to access/"install" even if they cost nothing. Without enabling/liberating the device for side loading, there's no way to install a package without going through the intermediary. Even still, those apps are strictly limited by their API version. Even if the code is written by a separate party, the API dictates execution and support beginning to end. So more like little accessories that "go with" your device(s) than independent programs/applications whose code has more portability? The shop will not even attempt to install things to old devices if the API it supports is too old. Whereas in Windows, we can generally install and use as much as of a program using the same architecture will allow in some "unofficial" capacity, by installing supported libraries, drivers, etc, to continue some form of support. (Unless it's hard-coded "not to" or its libraries/architecture are no longer supported by the OS) Even if it misbehaves or lacks some functionality in doing so. Emulation is still feasible. I'd say the limitations are often tied more to the code itself than the OS... broadly speaking. Things can be patched to some extent, so support is broader. Android apps generally remain proprietary to their API version, so are designed with the device lifecycle in mind. I just pulled a couple of Android tablets from my closet to check them and most apps will not run on them now despite the fact they are well-preserved... depressing because hardware-wise they're still functional, but I'll probably end up dropping them off at Compucycle. At least one is rooted, but providing support for something that old is just too difficult (and thus not possible).

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23 minutes ago, R C-R said:

Whether running on desktops or mobile devices they usually can perform many different tasks

... An application is also, of course, a program/software, but the basic characteristic that specifies it is that the application itself does nothing. The calculator application does not calculate anything until the user gives it values and the type of operation to perform. APhoto doesn't do anything until the user tells it to upload a specific image, brighten it, sharpen it, and then save it to disk. So the complexity of the program/application is not decisive at all, but the necessity of interactivity with the user.

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4 minutes ago, Pšenda said:

... An application is also, of course, a program/software, but the basic characteristic that specifies it is that the application itself does nothing. The calculator application does not calculate anything until the user gives it values and the type of operation to perform. APhoto doesn't do anything until the user tells it to upload a specific image, brighten it, sharpen it, and then save it to disk. So the complexity of the program/application is not decisive at all, but the necessity of interactivity with the user.

IOW, the user has to apply some function of the app for it to do anything. So in that sense the commonly used abbreviated terminology seems quite reasonable & logical to me.

YMMV.

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10 hours ago, Fist of the mighty Bob said:

I actually hate the term app. To me these are programs. Like back in the day before smartphones became mainstream and all the dumbfxxx started saying app.

As someone who used to write programs and applications, I hate "app" too.  But not as much as I hate "coder".

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2 hours ago, jimh12345 said:

As someone who used to write programs and applications, I hate "app" too. 

What about other commonly used abbreviations like mm, yd, km, mph, or ft? Would you be happier if this particular abbreviation included a period so it appeared as "app." to make it clearer that it stands for something longer?

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47 minutes ago, R C-R said:

What about other commonly used abbreviations like mm, yd, km, mph, or ft? Would you be happier if this particular abbreviation included a period so it appeared as "app." to make it clearer that it stands for something longer?

It’s funny how all of us appear to hate apps 

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