EXIF display error in Affinity Photo 2

[Gregoir]

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but I can't figure out how to fix it. This happens for .CR3 raw files and for iPhone photos in Affinity Photo 2, on a Mac. My location is Australia. When I display the EXIF data, the "Date Shot" gives the correct date, but the time is 9 hours prior to the actual time the photo was taken. So a photo I shot at 2:47pm displays as being shot at 5:47am in Affinity Photo. If I check the EXIF data of the photos in say "Preview" they display correctly.  Is there a location preference or some other setting that could be causing this?

[Ron P.]

@Gregoir,

The EXIF data in AP is inconsistent at best. When they released V2, the date/time field was a bug and they fixed it. However, thanks to your posting, I've discovered it still is not correct. Mine are not off by the amount yours are. My Canon RAW, CR2 files are off by 1 hour. This might be a Daylight Savings Time thing, or maybe not. I also noticed in the Metadata panel, if I change from EXIF to Detail, the Detail has the correct time. So clearly AP is not reading the info correctly from the RAW files.

I don't know of, can't locate any settings in AP for Date/Time.

I wonder if there's a 9 hour difference in time between your location and where Serif is located? I don't think that's the issue, otherwise what I would be seeing that in my files too. (Thinking out loud here).

 

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@Gregoir

You don't say what format the iPhone images are. If they're .heic rather than .jpeg, then it would make a certain amount of sense because both .cr3 and .heic images use QuickTime format. And the QuickTime specification for integer-format times is UTC rather than local time.

I'm not sure how that squares with your time zone/daylight savings settings, but I think it's possible that Affinity Photo isn't accounting for them correctly.

All the gory details are at the ExifTool QuickTime Tags page.

[R C-R]

8 hours ago, Ron P. said:

My Canon RAW, CR2 files are off by 1 hour.

FWIW, all my iPhone pix shot in the summertime in my local time zone are also off by one hour, I assume because daylight savings time was in effect then but not now.

I took it no further than that but I think it means the Affinity time/date metadata is being adjusted to current local values instead of absolute ones, so to speak.

[Lee D]

Some changes have been made in V2 and how the Exif data is read/displayed as it's looking for timezone data, if none I believe it assumes UTC 00:00. If someone can upload a sample file I can log it with the devs to double check everything is working as expected.

[Gregoir]

Thanks for the support guys. Sorry about taking so long to get back here. I just downloaded version 2.0.4 and it is somewhat fixed. The .HEIC iPhone pics display correctly. CR3 Canon pics display the time correctly when choosing the "Detail" tab but in the EXIF tab, display 1 hour later than they should. Other apps like Preview and Digital Photo Professional 4 display the Date Shot correctly. I'm not sure if this could be related to daylight saving time. 

IMG_9167.CR3

[Gregoir]

On 1/11/2023 at 4:42 AM, Lee D said:

Some changes have been made in V2 and how the Exif data is read/displayed as it's looking for timezone data, if none I believe it assumes UTC 00:00. If someone can upload a sample file I can log it with the devs to double check everything is working as expected.

Again, thanks and sorry for the late reply. I attached a sample Canon .CR3 file. 

IMG_9167.CR3

[Simon Judge]

On 1/2/2023 at 9:24 AM, Gregoir said:

Not sure if this is a bug or not, but I can't figure out how to fix it. This happens for .CR3 raw files and for iPhone photos in Affinity Photo 2, on a Mac. My location is Australia. When I display the EXIF data, the "Date Shot" gives the correct date, but the time is 9 hours prior to the actual time the photo was taken. So a photo I shot at 2:47pm displays as being shot at 5:47am in Affinity Photo. If I check the EXIF data of the photos in say "Preview" they display correctly.  Is there a location preference or some other setting that could be causing this?

I have a similar problem to Gregoir but in my case the time is being adjusted +6 hrs in the Metadata/EXIF/Date Shot field when I open the raw files in Affinity Photo.  Went to Italy in April 2024 where the time zone is normally UTC+1 but daylight saving came into effect in March so the time is currently UTC+2.  I live in Perth, Western Australia, which is UTC+8, so 6 hours ahead of Italy.  When I open the raw files now (Aug 2024) the time in the Date Shot field has +6 hrs added to it.  However,
 
The Metadata/Detail/Create Date field shows             2024-04-13T14:30:58+02:00
The Metadata/Detail/Date Time Original field shows  2024-04-13T14:30:58+02:00.  These are both correct.
The Metadata/EXIF/Date Shot field shows                  13/ 4/2024, 20:30:58.                This is incorrect.

I'm guessing the time zone information is shown in the Metadata above by the final "+02:00," although I may be wrong about that.  I'm not sure if this is something Affinity Photo is doing or something my Mac is doing or something the camera did.  When I check the info for the raw file before opening it in AP the date and time is correct so it would seem to be something that AP is doing.  It seems from the above posts that Serif has made some changes to the code to deal with this problem but it looks like the problem has not been fixed yet.

I'm using Affinity Photo ver. 2.5.3 on a Mac Studio (M1), MacOS Sonoma 14.6.1.  The camera was an Olympus OM-1.  I've also attached a copy of the raw file in question.  If anyone can shed some light on what is happening and any possible workarounds or solutions I would greatly appreciate it.

 

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[Hangman]

Hi @Simon Judge and welcome to the forums,

The Date Shot suggests the time is displayed locally based on your Mac's settings. If I open your image the Date Shot is shown as 13/04/2024, 13:30:58.

I'm in London which is 7 hrs behind Perth...

[Simon Judge]

1 hour ago, Hangman said:

Hi @Simon Judge and welcome to the forums,

The Date Shot suggests the time is displayed locally based on your Mac's settings. If I open your image the Date Shot is shown as 13/04/2024, 13:30:58.

I'm in London which is 7 hrs behind Perth...

Ah yes Hangman, it appears that you are right.  I went into the Mac's settings and changed the time zone to Italy and then opened the raw file in AP again and the Date Shot field showed the correct time of 14:30:58.  Hmmm, so it looks like AP is getting the date information from the raw file's EXIF data but somehow taking the time information from the Mac's system settings.

So I processed the raw image and saved it in native AP format as well as exporting a version as a tiff file.  Then I reset my Mac's settings to my local time zone and reopened the (now processed) AP file and yes the Date Shot time changed back to 20:30:58.  So AP is definitely picking up the time information from the wrong place.  However, the tiff file retained the correct time information in the Date Shot field when I opened it in AP (I embedded the EXIF info when I saved it).  Files saved in Affinity's native format pick up the time information from the wrong place but tiff files don't.

A possible, but not very satisfactory, work around I guess.  Hopefully we can get Serif onto this and they'll fix it.