Rules at zero for each facing pages

[DavidF.]

Most of the time, it's easier to have the origin point (0-0) on each page. Having the left side of the right page beginning at 210 mm for an A4 page is not easy. For example, it's more intuitive to place an element at 12 mm from the border than at 222 mm...

Does anybody know if there is a way to have rules at zero on top left of each page in the case of facing pages layout?

[firstdefence]

You could set the Model of the document up so that you have facing pages but the pages are aligned vertically instead of side by side, this will give you your 0,0 on every page as the pages will be stacked.

[MikeTO]

You might consider setting up your margins, guides, and grid and then ignoring or hiding the rulers entirely. I never work with the rulers visible.

[DavidF.]

Thanks for your replies.

But I really can't imagine working on a layout vertically while the reality is horizontal, like most of books, leaflet or catalogues. You need to see the final result. And in this case, even the X ruler is 0 on each page, but the Y ruler doesn't begin at 0.

Same for the rulers, I've been doing publishing for more than 30 years and margins, guides and grid are important. But with QuarkXpress, then with InDesign, I always kept rulers visible. And all my colleagues too. Layout are not always handle with grids. Especially when you working on creative document with few pages, all is a matter of balance and harmony between the two facing pages. And then guides and rulers are very important to verify and adjust finely. Then rulers at 0,0 on each page is more intuitive. And if you're working on 3 or more facing pages (X-fold leaflet), it's more and important.

Whatever, it seems this is not possible and it's really a pity. Same for the impossibility to have more than 2 facing pages.

 

 

[Old Bruce]

I just drag the Origin to where I want it. I need to have to have the ruler's origin at the Gutter very rarely but it is useful sometimes. As is having the ruler origin at the far right edge of the righthand page. Double click on the mm or whatever the units are to reset the origin to the upper left of the spread.

Drag the corner of the ruler to where you want it. Snapping to Spread, Page and Margins + their centres helps.

[loukash]

25 minutes ago, DavidF. said:

with QuarkXpress, then with InDesign, I always kept rulers visible.

I'm not much into rulers, but in InDesign, I remember that in the Preferences the default origin was Spread, too, and that I would always change it to Page whenever I had to reinstall ID or delete the corrupt preference file. (Don't remember how it was in QXP 3/4 or in PageMaker 3/4 anymore, it's been too long…)
So I can feel your pain here. 

To work around this minor flaw on an Affinity 2-page spread, usually I would rather place the origin in the middle, so that at least I have some symmetry.

25 minutes ago, DavidF. said:

Layout are not always handle with grids

Keep in mind that Affinity apps also have powerful snapping options, be it spread, page, grid, guides, object or even node based snapping. The snapping options are likely the main reason I rarely ever need rulers for layouts.

That all said…

25 minutes ago, DavidF. said:

rulers at 0,0 on each page is more intuitive

I definitely agree with that!

[MikeW]

If/when Serif ever adds scripting, their idea of ruler origin complicates reusability across publications of different spread sizes. 

It really demonstrates a lack of understanding of page layout applications. 

[firstdefence]

37 minutes ago, DavidF. said:

But I really can't imagine working on a layout vertically while the reality is horizontal, like most of books, leaflet or catalogues. You need to see the final result. And in this case, even the X ruler is 0 on each page, but the Y ruler doesn't begin at 0.

Make a request for 0,0 on each page here: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/forum/52-feature-requests-feedback/

[MikeW]

9 minutes ago, firstdefence said:

Make a request for 0,0 on each page here: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/forum/52-feature-requests-feedback/

It was done for APub during the v.1 series...more than once.

I suppose it should be done again for v.2...and then v.3...and then...

[lacerto]

Obsolete.

[thomaso]

10 hours ago, MikeW said:

It was done for APub during the v.1 series...more than once.

I suppose it should be done again for v.2...and then v.3...and then...

Reminds me to Affinity's weird flexible subdivisions in v.1 rulers, logged by Serif as "afd-3643" since 2019. – Are they fixed in v.2?

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/search/&tags=afd-3643

[loukash]

44 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Affinity's weird flexible subdivisions in v.1 rulers

Never noticed that.
Should I be using the ruler more often…? 

[MikeW]

1 hour ago, thomaso said:

Reminds me to Affinity's weird flexible subdivisions in v.1 rulers, logged by Serif as "afd-3643" since 2019. – Are they fixed in v.2?

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/search/&tags=afd-3643

No idea. The trial might still start, but will await morning to check. 

[firstdefence]

5 hours ago, thomaso said:

Reminds me to Affinity's weird flexible subdivisions in v.1 rulers, logged by Serif as "afd-3643" since 2019. – Are they fixed in v.2?

https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/search/&tags=afd-3643