Andrew Wood Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 V2 only. If I apply an adjustment, for example "brightness and contrast". After applying I go to invert and the adjustment is removed, however I do not get a black mask like V1 unless I disable that adjustment and then re-enable. is this correct? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 What are you inverting? The Adjustment layer or the layer it is applied to? How is the Adjustment ‘applied’ to the other layer? Is it nested inside the layer it is being applied to, or above that layer in the layer stack, or something else? Would you be able to post a video showing us what you can see and what you do with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Wood Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 Garry thank you for speedy reply. Please forgive me, but I do not fully understand your questions, and I do not have a clue how to send a video!! I am nearly 70, self taught, so I have achieved something! I attach 9 photos, photos 1-4 show how I create this change in V1 Affphoto. You’ll appreciate that I’ve overdone the changes for demonstration purposes. Photos 5-9 are Affphoto V2. I’m sure you can see where the problem lies. I cannot see a mask unless I turn the layer off, before turning it back on to use. I can’t believe that is correct. thank you again for your help and I hope the attached answer your questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 @Andrew Wood In V2, the Adjustment and Live Filters' masks are hidden until you start painting on them. Once you start painting the mask is revealed. I not convinced this was a good move by Serif. After several years of double-checking to ensure I had the Mask selected before painting, now I just need to "have faith" that I am painting on the mask. SrPx, IPv6 and Old Bruce 3 Quote Affinity Photo 2.4..; Affinity Designer 2.4..; Affinity Publisher 2.4..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Wood Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 Thank you Ron, I agree with you. Andrew Ron P. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ron P. said: Once you start painting the mask is revealed. I like it. 1. Any adjustment/filter without a mask is easily identifiable just like those with a mask are 2. You can also reset the mask (e.g. fill with white) and the mask icon disappears (once you do another operation) 3. As noted, the Inverted mask (as per the OP's query) does not appear until you do another operation I think these last two should be instantaneous Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Wood Posted December 30, 2022 Author Share Posted December 30, 2022 25 minutes ago, Ron P. said: In V2, the Adjustment and Live Filters' masks are hidden until you start painting on them. Once you start painting the mask is revealed. I not convinced this was a good move by Serif. After several years of double-checking to ensure I had the Mask selected before painting, now I just need to "have faith" that I am painting on the mask. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Ron P. said: @Andrew Wood In V2, the Adjustment and Live Filters' masks are hidden until you start painting on them. Once you start painting the mask is revealed. I not convinced this was a good move by Serif Me too. Now there is no way to compare adjustment effect with or without mask. In v1 user could just on-off mask and see the difference on screen immediately. Now there is no such direct way. can be worked around with fill and ctrl-Z, but previous approach was more user-friendly and intuitive, imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 1 hour ago, IPv6 said: Me too. Now there is no way to compare adjustment effect with or without mask. In v1 user could just on-off mask and see the difference on screen immediately. Now there is no such direct way. can be worked around with fill and ctrl-Z, but previous approach was more user-friendly and intuitive, imho You can still use the on/off to compare applying filters and adjustments, or just masking. That button is still there for both the adjustment and its mask. Quote Affinity Photo 2.4..; Affinity Designer 2.4..; Affinity Publisher 2.4..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, Ron P. said: You can still use the on/off to compare applying filters and adjustments, or just masking. That button is still there for both the adjustment and its mask. "That button is still there for both the adjustment and its mask" - that is the problem. Sometimes it is needed to add gradient for effect. And then to compare how it looks with/without gradient. In v1 i could turn off mask only, leaving adjustment turned on. Mask was alweys detached. In v2 i constantly fill-ctrlZ or redo gradient in separate mask (removing from adjustment build-in mask), just to turn it off to compare stuff visually as it was in v1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 No, that part of the adjustment/filter layers and masks are the same, with the exception of the buttons. V1 had the checkbox, V2 the round buttons. The adjustment and live filters hiding their included mask is all that really changed. Ok also in V1 when you disable a mask you get the horizontal red line through the thumbnail. You can still do the before/after. 2022-12-30 10-59-11.mp4 Quote Affinity Photo 2.4..; Affinity Designer 2.4..; Affinity Publisher 2.4..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6 Posted December 30, 2022 Share Posted December 30, 2022 In your case the mask is a separate layer, i`m talking about the case when you draw the gradient directly over adjustment layer. In v2 you get the mask that can not be disabled separately from adjustment itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 3 hours ago, IPv6 said: In your case the mask is a separate layer, i`m talking about the case when you draw the gradient directly over adjustment layer.In v2 you get the mask that can not be disabled separately from adjustment itself How are you disabling the mask in V1 separately from adjustment itself? Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPv6 Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 6 hours ago, carl123 said: How are you disabling the mask in V1 separately from adjustment itself? Hm. You are right. in V1 it is the same in terms of disabling. I confused some things - the real difference (not in favor to v2) is mask addition. This is a one button click in v1 - and you get separate mask that can be easily turned off, this is what i always do so frequently that it feels natural. But in v2 it`s a menu, you need to additionaly target item in it - so i turned to use "build-in" mask, which is inconvenient. Sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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