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New text styles often don't appear in text style panel, even though they do appear in the context tools list.


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Sorry, this is hard to reproduce. Erratic behaviour. 

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If they "often don't appear" it doesn't sound like it should be too hard to reproduce. Screenshots when it does, along with what you were just doing, and a sample .afpub document would be helpful.

I'm also not sure I understand what you mean by "context tools list", so you might describe that a bit more.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
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When you make the new Paragraph or Character Styles are they Based on... something? And do you have the Text Styles set to be showing the list of styles as a Hierarchal list?  This will have the styles nested inside the Based on... style, there is a disclosure triangle (to the left of the name) which can be (nearly) impossible to see with the light interface.

Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 
Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear.

I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

what you mean by "context tools list", so you might describe that a bit more

I mean the drop down list of text styles above the rulers in the context tool bar. It is listed alphabetically.  But even listing the text alphabetically in the text styles panel  doesn't show newly created text styles every time. Restarting Publisher they appear.

I don't think the problem is a disclosure triangle hiding the new text styles. I know that the triangles are often barely visible, and I also understand my nested structure of text styles well enough to know exactly where to look in the hierarchy after defining a style based on another one. 

MacBook Pro, Retina, mid-2015, macOS Monteray, RAM: 16 GB, CPU Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 2,8 GHz. Monitor: 27" (3840 × 2160) DELL U2723QE 

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1 minute ago, GuyMiklos said:

I mean the drop down list of text styles above the rulers in the context tool bar.

Thanks. In case it helps, remember that there are Character Text Styles and Paragraph Text Styles, each the it's own list in the Context Toolbar.

It probably won't help if they're really showing up again after a Publisher restart, though.

 

 

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.4

Posted
13 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

there are Character Text Styles and Paragraph Text Styles

thanks, Walter.  The "hiding" text style happened with Paragraph Text Styles. I use Character Text Styles too, and look in that section of the text styles panel just in case I had created the wrong type by mistake, which I have done a few times, and check for ever since then whenever I can't find a new text style. But that wasn't the case for the erratic problem I reported. I did check. 

MacBook Pro, Retina, mid-2015, macOS Monteray, RAM: 16 GB, CPU Quad-Core Intel Core i7, 2,8 GHz. Monitor: 27" (3840 × 2160) DELL U2723QE 

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4 hours ago, MikeTO said:

Hi Guy, could you please upload a test document that includes a paragraph or character style that won't appear in the Context Bar lists?

Thanks

The problem vanishes as soon as the document is closed and reopened. Then all styles are visible, just where I would expect them to be. So I can't really provide a test document.

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