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Vulpy

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Hello, 
I'm having trouble cropping RAW photos. When I apply the lens corrections and develop the photo, the corrections remain applied, but the edges of the image are not used.

macOS Ventura - 13.1
Affinity Photo 2 - 2.0.3
 

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Pšenda

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In Windows work fine - Lens correction and Crop image after Develop.

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Ron P.

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In V2 we have the ability to maintain the RAW file, so even though you cropped it in the Develop Persona, AP is not going Trim it. However in order to Trim the cropped image, you must first Rasterize. Use Rasterize and Trim. If you think you'll need to go back into the Develop Persona to make additional changes to your RAW file, I would Duplicate your RAW layer, and use Rasterize and Trim on the duplicated one.

In lieu of all that, change the Output (top left) to Pixel. AP will rasterize the image automatically when it's developed. 

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3 hours ago, Ron P. said:

In V2 we have the ability to maintain the RAW file, so even though you cropped it in the Develop Persona, AP is not going Trim it. However in order to Trim the cropped image, you must first Rasterize. Use Rasterize and Trim.

But if I crop while developing the RAW file, the image gets cropped even though the cropped part is not discarded.

Before Develop:
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After Develop:
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After Rasterize and Trim:
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Ron P.

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The RAW images I  used also stay cropped, even though the excess is not discarded until I choose to Rasterize & Trim. Even though I intentionally setup the RAW images, cropping where the transparent edges from Lens Correction should show like OP's, I can not replicate what's happening.

@Vulpy, could you attach one of your RAW images so we can test it?

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Vulpy

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I can do undo in develop persona. It's not destructive. 
The problem is with the develop, where in the develop persona I see an image with corrections. And after develop, those corners with correction (where without correction the image is not) are discarded.

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12 minutes ago, Vulpy said:

Here is a RAW file to which you can apply corrections

Everything works as expected for me. Maybe I don't understand your problem - can you describe with screenshots what is wrong?

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Vulpy

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Screenshot 1: If i open RAW file in develop persona everything is fine.1.png

Screenshot 2: I want tilt picture. For example, to straighten the image.2.png

Screenshot 3: If i turn off lens correction i see some picture missing. This is fine, because I'm just beyond the edges of the picture.3.png

Screenshot 4: But I want use correction and use part of picture that I get by distorting the image. Now I have in the crop selection only the image without empty borders like in screenshot 2. The image is tilted, but the image fills the selection because the edges fill the distorted image.4.png

Screenshot 5: After develop photo I see a picture with the lens corrections applied, but with missing edges as in the screenshot 3. And that's wrong

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Pšenda

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Your first image (screenshot 1)
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Your last image (screenshot 5)
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They look the same to me - and it's the part of the image, not the sensor record, that Affinity uses as output when applying corrections.
Other screenshots may show unusable parts recorded from the sensor, which are subsequently cut off during RAW calculation/development (the clipping may be more pronounced when corrections are applied).

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20 minutes ago, Vulpy said:

In affinity photo 1, I was able to use the extra image and it was there after the image was developed.

Yes, you are right (1.10.5 vs 2.0.0).
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V2.0.0 without lens correction.
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So it seems that when using Lens corrections, V2 cuts off more of the sensor recording to ensure an output that is undistorted by the corrections.

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Vulpy

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And yet, after the corrections, we get more image than the sensor recording, and we might as well use the recovered part of the image.
So it's a bug

Luc Gagnon

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I have exactly the same problem. When I develop the images, I lose the corners as pictured above. I didn't occur with version 1. If ever someone finds a solution for this, I would be very interested.

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Try off Lens Correction in Develop Persona, and filter Lens Correction in Photo Persona. 

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