Bleed adjustment missing in Designer V2

[Paul Mudditt]

Whilst we can see the bleed in V2 Designer, the adjustment of bleed seems to have gone missing in Designer.

Edited December 18, 2022 by Paul Mudditt
Corrected, Publisher can adjust bleed, but Designer can’t

[loukash]

Since there's no mention of changing existing bleed in the Help files, it looks like it's not a bug, but – questionably – rather "by design" or something…
In any case, it's a flaw, not a "feature".

[Paul Mudditt]

7 hours ago, loukash said:

Since there's no mention of changing existing bleed in the Help files, it looks like it's not a bug, but – questionably – rather "by design" or something…
In any case, it's a flaw, not a "feature".

I see where your coming from but if you have spent weeks on your design then need bleed adjusted I think users would be aggrieved.

For me the default rule would be if it was in V1 and it is missing then it is a defect in V2 that must be fixed.

If it has been replaced by another feature then that would be an exception to that rule that could be explained in my personal opinion. 

[Blende21]

Bleed settings are in New Document, Tab Margin & Bleed - at least on my iPad, in Publisher 2.0. Bleed adjustment when the document is open is in the „hamburger“ 3 horizontal lines menu, Document Settings, and then at the bottom right (scroll down). May be it’s called a little different, had to translate from German:

 

[loukash]

59 minutes ago, Blende21 said:

in Publisher 2.0. Bleed adjustment when the document is open is in the „hamburger“ 3 horizontal lines menu, Document Settings, and then at the bottom right (scroll down).

Yes, but that's in Publisher. It should be in Designer as well.

Of course, you can always open an afdesign in Publisher and adjust the bleed.
But how about folks who didn't buy Publisher?

[loukash]

1 hour ago, Paul Mudditt said:

I see where your coming from but if you have spent weeks on your design then need bleed adjusted I think users would be aggrieved.

I'm all with you.  
As I said, it's definitely a flaw.
But since it's not even being documented as a v2 feature, unfortunately I expect the staff moving this thread to Feedback in three, two, one…

[Paul Mudditt]

@Blende21 I stand corrected, the defect is in Designer, I have corrected this in my original post. Thank you.

[Blende21]

You can set the bleed, but the function described in the help text to change it seems missing. Only margins can be corrected.

As a workaround I would probably open a new document with an adapted bleed, and copy everything there. Not ideal, a measure of last resort.

[Paul Mudditt]

On 12/18/2022 at 12:01 PM, Blende21 said:

You can set the bleed, but the function described in the help text to change it seems missing. Only margins can be corrected.

As a workaround I would probably open a new document with an adapted bleed, and copy everything there. Not ideal, a measure of last resort.

Yes you can set the bleed on a new document, but what you could do in V1 was change your mind and adjust it, now you can’t in V2 without creating a new document and copy pasting everything across to a new document with the bleed changed.

[walt.farrell]

59 minutes ago, Paul Mudditt said:

now you can’t in V2 without creating a new document and copy pasting everything across to a new document with the bleed changed.

Or by using Publisher, of course.

[EmT]

Hi @Paul Mudditt

We are aware of this issue and it has been passed to the devs for investigation.

[Kobold]

Just been searching my a...se off for changing bleed settings, ......   and, thanks Affinity / Serif guys, ....  another bug, miss, or how ever you want to call it. Good they can make it in new V2 version creating new bugs, misses, shows its a very creative (bug) company. Why am I writing like I do? Cause they costed me already so much time over the years with bugs, problems, not documented infos, .....   and same now here.

Professional software? Only if you can create enough workarounds for not working or missing stuff. Create a new document with bleeds, to then copy all from document with no bleeds into new document? Ha ha ha ha ha .....     (not funny at all) Just been searching for half an hour for hidden settings, somewhere ... and also online help is no help here.

And the worst thing: Be prepared this will get fixed with V3 Designer, not earlier. There will be new stuff with updates, but seldom fixed problems, thats my experience over the years as a user from the beginning. Why am I using it then? Cause there is plenty of stuff working fine, but as you all know it is the little needles, the little oder bigger problems that stop your project, your work, that makes you angry. And obvious things like this bleed problem make me really wonder:

Who did ever really tested this software, under real working conditions before they gave it to the stores?

 

[Kobold]

Btw .... its 3 months since this thread has been started. Other app companies are bringing updates way faster, and solve problems way faster, than Serif. Why not bringing more updates faster, solving the existing problems? Would help us customers much more than waiting months over months, nothing happening, and then after update problem is still the same.

Btw  ......  Affinity Designer 1 on iPad is making strange things too more and more ........  

[Kobold]

To me it seems also, as if the complete documents settings is missing. Just checked publisher V2 on iPad, with s proper document setting options, ..... not available like so in designer V2.

[Jakub Vojtasko]

Does this work for anyone on V2 for ipad?

[walt.farrell]

17 hours ago, Jakub Vojtasko said:

Does this work for anyone on V2 for ipad?

Welcome to the Affinity forums, Jakob.

It is still a problem logged with the Developers, as AF-85.

The Affinity Info Bot will post here when the problem is resolved.